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Kenneth Brown · Oct 25, 2003

Don't mess it up please, keep it clean so it sticks around. Oct. 23, 2003 Reparations claims land pair in prison Sought nonexistent slavery tax credits Associated Press RICHMOND, Va. -- A tax preparer was sentenced Thursday to 13 years in prison and his daughter received just over three years for defrauding the IRS by claiming $500,000 in slavery reparations. Robert L. Foster, 51, and Crystal Foster, 25, also were ordered by a federal judge to repay the Internal Revenue Service about half of the income tax refund, which Crystal Foster received in October 2001. Robert Foster prepared his daughter's tax forms and was convicted with his daughter in July of fraud. According to federal prosecutors, Foster prepared returns for several people claiming more than $3.6 million in reparations, most for about $500,000 each. In an interview at the Northern Neck Regional Jail before his sentencing, Robert Foster maintained he did the right thing. "Black people are not treated as humans, but as things by the U.S. government," he said. "We were used as resources to enrich this country and we get no inheritance from the wealth we brought." On her tax forms, Crystal Foster claimed she had overpaid taxes on long-term capital gains in 2000. She listed the fictitious "Black Capital Investments" fund as the source of the gains. The 13-year sentence could be one of the most severe for tax fraud related to reparations claims. Robert Foster smiled at family and friends after his sentencing. Crystal Foster collapsed to the floor, screaming and crying after she was sentenced. Her attorney had pleaded for leniency, claiming she was under her father's control. "I just want to be at home with my two children," Crystal Foster told U.S. District Judge Richard L. Williams. "It's not fair. The government sent me this check." Williams said Crystal Foster "was a willing participant in the crime." The daughter spent the money in eight days, buying a $40,000 Mercedes-Benz, paying off student loans and helping her brother pay for his first year at Virginia Tech. Prosecutors say only about half the money has been recovered. The IRS says more than 80,000 tax returns were filed in 2001 seeking nonexistent slavery tax credits totaling $2.7 billion. More than $30 million was mistakenly paid out in slave reparations in 2000 and part of 2001. IRS spokeswoman Michelle Lamishaw said the idea of filing reparations claims may stem from a 1993 Essence magazine editorial urging blacks to seek refunds of $43,206 per household. Robert Foster said he increased the total tenfold to account for inflation.

SpinnerBait_Nut · Oct 25, 2003

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OK KB, all I have to say is they got what they deserve for committing a crime.

tylerin · Oct 25, 2003

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OK than KB I'll say this ".............." Thats about all I can say so this post "sticks around"

FLATHEAD · Oct 25, 2003

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She spent the money in 8 days! Sheesh. Why go for only half the money back, I say go for all 500,000, after all it was gotten illegally. If I read this right in reality she is getting paid 250,000 to commit a crime.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 25, 2003

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The daughter spent the money in eight days, buying a $40,000 Mercedes-Benz, looks like they upped the ante on the Welfare Cadillac, break out the broadsword and do a full swing right down the coconut, give em a nice paid for burial by heavin em into the la brea tarpit who ELSE wants "reparations"???

Skinnywater · Oct 25, 2003

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Funny...or sad, sadly ironic. That the dad, since he had a job that requiers a good education. The daughter who had outstandinding higher education loans. The son who was already enrolled in a very good University. All felt that they were victims, objects, or needed reparations.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 25, 2003

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pandering scumbags taking The System for the never ending reparation free ride I say, take the money set aside for these bullsh!t reparations and ship them all to washington DC, to go to the Lincoln Memorial, where they will find immortalized for their enlightenment a statue of Abraham Lincoln, a WHITE MAN who DIED along with nearly a MILLION other white men, who were dedicated to the idea that all men should be FREE, and in those DEATHS, those ultimate SACRIFICES, there is absolute TOTAL "REPARATION", and if that is NOT ENOUGH, GET OUT, GET OUT, GET THE "F" OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AND GO TO HELL BACK TO WHATEVER FLEA BITTEN, BACKWARD, BONE THRU THE NOSE HELLHOLE THAT YOU CALL YOUR SPIRITUAL HOME GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

SoulWinner · Oct 25, 2003

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Hmmmmm.....I'm sensing some hidden feelings here Castway.....why don't you lie down on this couch and tell us how you really feel. You're among freinds, you won't be judged, just let it out.... BTW, 8 days? What took her so long? With one phone call and a short on pork bellies I could have the $500K gone and be $500mil in the hole

I love the logic of "but the gubment sent dat check!" UmmmmmmKaaaaay.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 25, 2003

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well yeah, but I feel better now! lol on the 500 mil in the hole, hey, shes tradin in her wasnt good enough 100 thousand dollar home and getting a mulitmillion dollar state of the art gated community housing now what a deal!

Kenneth Brown · Oct 25, 2003

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Its ok Ray, I guess its been up there long enough. I'm pretty sure when the mods see it they are gonna be a little upset with ya. I sure was hoping to keep it clean though.

SS MAYFLOAT · Oct 25, 2003

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This is one of those areas where a Flat Tax would never allowed this to happen. They got what they had coming. Fraud should be handled more severly in this country than it is. It is only going to take our gov officals to get their identity stolen for them to make changes. Reparations? Ha Ha Ha! It was not our government that sold their ancestors. It was their own ancestors in Africa that sold them to the slave traders. Our gov didn't have nothing to do with it. What our ancestors did was to abolish the slavery and set them free. Fosters remarks to me is racist. He should do extra time for a hate crime as well. With his statements basically saying the whites don't treat the blacks humainly. Just another example someone looking for something for nothing! I don't like it one bit! SS

aspeck · Oct 25, 2003

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All I can say is this, Slavery was, and is, a terrible thing. It never should have happened. But it did, and it is in the past. If anyone feels strongly that we should right the past, then I will be the first to line up and pay their ticket back to their "home village." I live in them 1/2 of the year. I know how they would be living if they had not had the chance to come to America. I know that they were sold into slavery by their own people, I know that the US imported about 1/10 of the total amount of slaves that left Africa, but we are accused the most because we have the best records ... So, next time someone complains and wants reparations, tell them you will gladly recieve all their assests, give them back the equivilant of what their ancestors living in the mother country now has, and with the remainder, buy there ticket back there. See what they say.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 26, 2003

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ok, ok, I took the offensive part out, but the offensive part is that we as Americans, and we ARE Americans, I dont call myself a German Irish Dutch English French Canadian Native American (and even rumored African, but the records dont go back enough to substantiate it)DASH American, I am AMERICAN, born here, raised here, will die here if you LIVE here you LOVE here OR YOU LEAVE HERE PERIOD Amen Aspeck and SS, the trusted chiefs sold em out, but do they go to the VILLAGES to get REPARATIONS??? NOOOOOOO CAUSE ITS STICKS AND MUD AND A FEW CHICKEN BONES HUNG UP WITH SHINY BEADS FOR MEDICAL TALISMANS, DUST DIRT AND ROCKS, WHICH IS ALL THEY WOULD HAVE IF THE STAYED THERE reparations my azz, they should pay TRIBUTE to the people that brought them to the land of opportunity and colleges, and if you EARN it,if you EARN IT, NOT STEAL IT IN AN OPPORTUNISTIC GRAB BAG, the opportunity to drive a MERCEDES BENZ THREE THOUSAND MILES FROM COAST TO COAST without fear of incarceration these scumbags make me SICK, the very worst part is that the 1% minority falling for the propaganda of the assorted so called REVERENDS cast all the hard working, productive peoples in a lousy light, its just horrible

Kenneth Brown · Oct 26, 2003

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I like it Ray!!!!!!!!

these scumbags make me SICK, the very worst part is that the 1% minority falling for the propaganda of the assorted so called REVERENDS cast all the hard working, productive peoples in a lousy light, its just horrible

That my freinds is the truth. Most people are good hard workers, its the select few that destroy everything for everyone, including themselves.

timothyl · Oct 26, 2003

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Wow, I don't know what to say! I am sure that any response I make is going to be misconstrued, but here it goes anyway. I can not believe that I just read such an uneducated, knee-jerk response to something that is untrue. I spend 10 monthes a year trying to teach young individuals to learn all the facts before they go off on a rant but it is so difficult when there are people in the world that respond in such a manner as I have read here. First of all, in ten seconds of research I came upon the following link that will dispell such a load of bunk. http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/blacktax.asp While I do agree that any thought of reparations are simply attempts by individuals to get what they have no claim to, all debts have been paid in blood by people of all race, color, and creed. Reacting in a racist manner that clearly shows no inteligble thought, merely perpetuates the problems of race in this country. Second: Abraham Lincoln, while truly one of the greatest men that has ever had the privilege of serving as the President of The Unites States, never made a huge issue over slavery. His whole reason for being during the Civil War was to preserve the Union. If slaves could be freed during this entirely un-civil war, that great, if not then that was O.K. also. As a matter of fact, Lincoln sent a telegram to Jefferson Davis only a few monthes before the end of the war that if the South were to give up and return to the Union, then they (South) could keep their slaves. To put the name of a man who worked so hard to preserve and better a great nation in words that are so hateful and derogatory to the being of this nation is next to sacriledge. Third: Yes, I agree that people are entitled to have their opinion, just as I have stated mine here, I simply find it sad that people cannot react in a manner that is not offensive or racist. While I am sure that individuals that have previously posted on this topic will take offense, I simply could not allow that attitude to be the only one presented on this topic. For those that previously have taken this matter to an extremely ugly place, I leave you with the words of Voltaire, one of the individuals whose ideals help shape our great nation, "I disagree with what you say, but I will dfend to the death your right to say it."

SpinnerBait_Nut · Oct 26, 2003

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HUH?

Skinnywater · Oct 26, 2003

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I can not believe that I just read such an uneducated, knee-jerk response to something that is untrue.

Well tlands, your snopes link is a bit late for the Foster crew. And it didn't do me much good either, since I already knew that there isn't reparations for desendents of slaves. However, it took a ten minute search on my part to come up with several sources for this AP report. This was the first one from a Houston newspaper site. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2176085 Maybe before you start slinging the racist word around, you might truely identify the racists and actions that are racist. You might note that the loudest post on this thread intentionally made the qualification;

these scumbags make me SICK, the very worst part is that the 1% minority falling for the propaganda of the assorted so called REVERENDS cast all the hard working, productive peoples in a lousy light, its just horrible

Intent has a lot to do with racism. What your experiencing here is a backlash from whites, is an increasing amount of racism against whites. And that intent is clear. What Mr. Foster was convicted of was clear fraud against the citizens of America. Yet he was also guilty of greed, ignorance and racism. It's my opinion you were the one that has tried to take this to an ugly place. Please let me remind you, as was mentioned previously. It was the blood of millions of White Americans that freed the slaves. Reparations have been long since been, paid in full.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 26, 2003

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not only that, but at the time of Lincolns term, or trial by fire, and subsequent execution for his altruistic actions, was besieged by, and these are MY WORDS, uneducated knee jerker that I am, CONTINUAL RIOTS BY ABOLISHIONISTS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM, WHITES DEMANDING FREEDOM FOR THE SLAVES Lincoln ran his campaign on that issue: "This nation cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. Abraham Lincoln entered a political campaign that gained him national recognition and eventually, the presidency of the United States. During four years of civil war, Lincoln bore the burden of trying to preserve the union which had begun so nobly four-score and seven years earlier. On January 1, 1863, Lincolns Emancipation Proclamation ended slavery in the entire country, and changed the character of the war" January 1 1863, LONG BEFORE THE WAR ENDED Get your facts straight, and try to "rectumfy" your anal-cranial inversion oy, what a putz

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 26, 2003

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I will add one more thing ... I am not racist, I merely DESPISE HYPOCRACY - I go to school surrounded by all ethnicities, my class in Acting Methodologies is nearly all black, and the teacher is black as well, profoundly intelligent man, hard working, dedicated, someone I would love to call my friend however HOWEVER THESE RACIST MUD SLINGING SH!TPOT STIRRING SCUMBAG "BLACKTIVISTS", THE REVERENDS ON ENDLESS PARADE, CONSTANTLY STIRRING THE BLACK MIND TO BE UNHAPPY IN A TIME OF HARMONY AND PROSPERITY, I GET SO **** ANGRY I COULD SPIT NAILS INTO THIER COFFINS THATS what ticks me off, THAT ALONE, this continual attempt to create discord and contempt is APPALLING, and little more than blantant panhandling on a lucrative national scale tlands, Ive read your posts, you are intelligent! why cant you see what the blacktivists are doing? CANT YOU SEE IT????? I grant you, I live in an ivory tower of academia, where the white collar (not a RACIST TERM, means they dont have blue collars!)workers of America are being taught to be the teachers and torch bearers of America. There is no racism there, there is fairness and everyone gets a good shake Roll back the clock fifteen years I drove a truck, blue collar as it gets, black friends there too, truck drivers, dispatchers, warehouse workers, all treated fairly, all getting a days pay for adays work Ahhhhh BUT IF you want to SPEND YOUR LIFE in the ghetto huffin crack, zero effort into life, zero gain, and those are the ones the Blacktivists target, they are a dependent population living on welfare and handouts and THEY ARE A POLITICAL POWERHOUSE, a vast pool of dependents waiting to be tapped by the best tapdancers, and watch the blacktivists do their thing come election time tlands, keep yer eyes open, this lesson is closed

plywoody · Oct 26, 2003

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I cannot believe this is true either. It makes no sense. In order to get a refund of a 1/2 million, you would have to show you paid in at least that amount. If that is not the case, perhaps the outrage should be placed with the IRS whose accounting system would allow this fraud to occur. But more importantly, why is there not a similar outrage when someone like Kenny Boy Lay steals millions from investors, or when the big investment firms scam millions off mutual funds investors, or any number of other outrages that have been exposed recently that have been all too real? And where has the SEC been, and why has it taken a Attorney General from the state of New York, with his staff just a tiny fraction of the available staff at the SEC, to bring all this crap to light? It does not seem we have to look very far to find outrageous fraud--I'd be a little more comfortable if we treated the various frauds with outrage commensurate with their impacts. If this story is true, and that is a big if, it pales in comparitive importance with some of the other frauds that have been exposed recently. The overeaction to stories such as this does indeed smack of racism.

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