Intermittent rough idle

hshift

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My tub is a 93 Sunbird w/Ford 302 HO V8 with Petronix ignition. I've been chasing an intermittent rough idle /rich mixture problem. I've adjusted the choke, checked the plugs, fuel filters and fuel quality, also the mech. fuel pump seems to be working. The exhaust flappers are still there and in good shape. The ESA is working also. From threads I've read here, I'm going to rebuild the Holley carb next, to eliminate the possibility of the bowl sticking. Anyway last night I decided to check spark. I pulled each plug wire one at a time and while I have spark at every cylinder, the spark is yellow and seems kind of weak to me from what it should be, so I grabbed my timing light and figured let me see where its set at. Interestingly, my timing light would not light up, no matter what cylinder I connected it to. Figured my light was busted, so I tried it on my car and it worked. Now I'm thinking my problem is I have weak spark getting to the cylinders, too weak to trigger the timing light. I haven't timed an engine with a timing light in a long time, is it possible a weak spark would cause the timing light not to work? Any ideas appreciated. BTW I have owned this boat for five years, and it has run strong and smooth up till now. The only thing I have needed to do to it other than usual maintenance items is change the assist solenoid the beginning of this year, but I don't think that would be causing rough idle issues.
 

Levinz11

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Re: Intermittent rough idle

How many volts to the coil while the engine is running?

Do you have a coil that takes 12V constantly or does it use an internal/external resistor?
 

hshift

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Re: Intermittent rough idle

I just checked. With the key on not running I have 9.8v at the coil positive term. Running I'm getting 12.8v. I don't think I have an external resistor. BTW I also am showing voltage at the negative terminal. If key on I'm getting 2.8v, running I'm getting 9.4. Is that normal to have voltage at the neg post as well?
 
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hshift

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Re: Intermittent rough idle

Upon closer inspection the coil says "for use with external resistor". (Of course the lettering was facing down so I couldn't see the label without pulling it out.)
 

kbibeau1

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Re: Intermittent rough idle

If you are getting 12+V to the + you do not have a resistor or you have one that is not doing its job. I had a similar problem recently and replaced it with a coil w/ internal resistor and boy did that help:)
 

hshift

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Re: Intermittent rough idle

Thanks for the info. I'm going to have to check my wiring. According to the official OMC manual pg 3-44, there are two purple wires to the pos. coil post, one goes to the assist solenoid, and the other is the resistor wire. I DO have two purple wires, but I know one of them goes to the Petronix distributor ignition module, the other I'm not sure, I'll have to check that when I get home.
 
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