IP numbers

[thefairlaneman]

I just learned today that your computer, your printer and your internet provider reguardless of wheather its a dial up or high speed cable ALL have traceable ID numbers. Talk about big brother being able to get in your business.......

 

[wuttja]

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It is true that you have a unique IP address, but most people do not have a static IP address. Internet providers usually have a giant pool of IP addresses, and periodically your cable or DSL modem will pick up a new one. If you want to surf iBoats (and any other website) with a little more privacy, there are many websites out there that will 'hide' your IP address while surfing. Just google 'anonymous proxy' and you'll find plenty of free websites that provide this service. It's one way to get around those darn blocks at work!

 

[Tyme2fish]

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wuttja: Shut up and get back to work.

 

[thefairlaneman]

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I want to sneak back into another forum and take care of some unfinished BEEESNUSSSSSSSSS.Thanks for the info. I plan to try it out. LOL

 

[gonefishie]

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But don't think you can do something illegal like sharing copyrighted material. Those anonymous proxy server does have your IP.

 

[SnappingTurtle]

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But don't think you can do something illegal like sharing copyrighted material. Those anonymous proxy server does have your IP.

... and a lot of them are run by the US Government.

 

[NelsonQ]

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Proxy does provide the anonymity. It causes a real problem tracking illegal or fraudulent activites. Very common for credit card scammers to use these proxies to sign up to online services, etc to test the validity of stolen credit cards.

As they change numerous proxies throughout the day, it's hard to track or find trends. Even worse, is 10s of proxies pop up every day across the Internet.

 

[Nick8564]

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IP numbers are an address for your computer so that communications across the internet now where to go. Like mentioned before most now are dynamic which means they change constantly, but records are kept. Have to have them, if not it would be like trying to send someone a letter through the USPS when that person doesn't have an address. Not made for tracking people on through internet, but has helped catch a lot of bad people. Dail-up doesn't use IP numbers, but the provider still can match people up with what they did illegaly.

 

[NelsonQ]

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Dail-up doesn't use IP numbers

Actually, all functionality on the Internet is dependent on IP.

I won't get into specifics of the OSI model and how things work in great details, but what I can assure you is everything on the Internet communicates via IP addressing.

Dial up simply establishes a connection (called a Link Layer or Layer 2 connection between two points, your ISP and your home PC via hardware communications between your modem and the dial up gateway at your ISP) However, it has no idea what to do next. It becomes dependent on the Network Layer or Layer 3 for addressing and path determination. Essentially, what is my address and how do I get to the next address so how does your PC find iboats.com.

While not as evident as with other technologies that people are more comfortable with such as high speed cable or DSL, it all works on the same basic principles.

 

[Big Sarge]

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Yep, if someone were to spam this board bad enough and they didn't use a proxy they could call your ISP (internet service provider) and complain about the spamming and if your ISP isn't lazy they usually will give you a call about it and ask you to stop or cut your service. Oh and yes spamming is against the law lol.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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Actually, all functionality on the Internet is dependent on IP.

I won't get into specifics of the OSI model and how things work in great details, but what I can assure you is everything on the Internet communicates via IP addressing.

Dial up simply establishes a connection (called a Link Layer or Layer 2 connection between two points, your ISP and your home PC via hardware communications between your modem and the dial up gateway at your ISP) However, it has no idea what to do next. It becomes dependent on the Network Layer or Layer 3 for addressing and path determination. Essentially, what is my address and how do I get to the next address so how does your PC find iboats.com.

While not as evident as with other technologies that people are more comfortable with such as high speed cable or DSL, it all works on the same basic principles.

And then there's the MAC address.

 

[orion25]

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And then there's the MAC address.

Yes but is is pretty easy to spoof MAC addresses.

 

[jcsftwre]

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I just learned today that your computer, your printer and your internet provider reguardless of wheather its a dial up or high speed cable ALL have traceable ID numbers. Talk about big brother being able to get in your business.......

Yes they do, and back when I worked at the stockbrokerage that is how I traced the hackers back to where they were. Then I introduced them to the company attorney. It is not always big brother a Network engineer like myself will use this to help secure a network or to trace an unruly person. With an IP Address or a MAC address I can trace it right back to the computer it came from in a few seconds to a few minutes. That is how I help to catch a person that threatened to kill someone that I knew. Not only did I trace it back to him but I also found his home address, phone number, a satellite photograph of his house and what he done last weekend. Needleless to say he had to go to court.

 

[Nandy]

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Yes they do, and back when I worked at the stockbrokerage that is how I traced the hackers back to where they were. Then I introduced them to the company attorney. It is not always big brother a Network engineer like myself will use this to help secure a network or to trace an unruly person. With an IP Address or a MAC address I can trace it right back to the computer it came from in a few seconds to a few minutes. That is how I help to catch a person that threatened to kill someone that I knew. Not only did I trace it back to him but I also found his home address, phone number, a satellite photograph of his house and what he done last weekend. Needleless to say he had to go to court.

Not so easy anymore. Most any wireless system can be cracked in a matter of minutes and anyone can fake your mac address or specify an IP. Anyone that is on the know can use your wireless system to do the dirty works he needs then drive away. If anyone were to accuse me of copyright infringement that will be the easiest way out.

Now, if you dont have a wireless system is its harder to prove anyone is using your service...

NOTHING is anonymous in the internet. Unless someone goes around deleting logs in servers anyone with the time and power can get the information to hunt you down... Except, if you are using someones else connection via their wireless system.

 

[jcsftwre]

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Not so easy anymore. Most any wireless system can be cracked in a matter of minutes and anyone can fake your mac address or specify an IP. Anyone that is on the know can use your wireless system to do the dirty works he needs then drive away. If anyone were to accuse me of copyright infringement that will be the easiest way out.

Now, if you dont have a wireless system is its harder to prove anyone is using your service...

NOTHING is anonymous in the internet. Unless someone goes around deleting logs in servers anyone with the time and power can get the information to hunt you down... Except, if you are using someones else connection via their wireless system.

Yup! I agree with you. The latest one I tracked down was a guy scamming Craigslist. he lives in Georgia. He tried to scam me on a telescope sale that I was selling for $800.00 . He gave me too much info and I turned him into his local police department. They went and had a long talk with hm.

 

[thefarelainman]

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Sorry for the mess up