Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

[denislajoie]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

Is there anything you cant do with a torch!!! thanks Paul thats my next move

 

[itstippy]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

The torch trick works well. Coil and roller bearing drop right out. Reinstalling is tricky without the special tool. I've done it with a long 1/2" drive socket extension, my collection of big sockets, and a hammer.<br />It's hard to believe those coils could come apart like that. They look so solid and no moving parts. How does it happen?

 

[lark2004]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

it happens when the bearings are stuffed. the whole prop shaft starts to get to much end play and the hub (the bit with the spring on it!) starts to drag into the coil. The coil windings are only fixed in with a plastic resin. If the hub comes int contact with that while turning it will wear the resin away, and then rip the coil apart. The whole process only takes a few seconds once the parts start to touch.

 

[phil.leblanc]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

Hey lark2004, what do you mean by stuffed bearings. I had the same thing happen to me. Denis 67 I know what you mean by trying to get the forward gear out. When I disabled my lower unit I did not get it out. I was going to but was not sure how to get it out. The mechanic told me in my case I did not have to get it out of the housing but said if I ever have to I would have to hit the housing with a heavy rubber mallet to knoc it out. Never tried. If you decide to heat the foot go easy, I can't remember if there is any aluminium down there or not but I know that won't take too much heat. As for the coil if you can get it out I wonder if one of those shops that specialise in rebuilding starters, windings...might be able to rebuild your coil. Might be worth looking into it. Good luck and let me know how you make out. <br />Phil.

 

[lark2004]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

I meant that the front bearing is a tapered roller bearing. With time this will wear out. These motors are all very old. The hub runs very close to the coil and it does not take much to run into it. If you have the gearcase apart, replace that bearing.

 

[denislajoie]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

Hey all. I just bought a complete engine for 60$ motor is no good but the rest is, other than replacing the seals and the water pump, is there anything i should be looking for or that i should do before or while putting it back together

 

[phil.leblanc]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

Looks like your on the right track. Just lube the seals with grease and make sure you have all the bearrings in place where the drive shaft meets the prop. shaft. In my unit those bearrings are loose and can fall in the foot easilly.<br />Where did you get that unit for $60 ? That's a great deal. If you don't want the old reverse coil, let me know, I might buy it off you.<br />Phil.

 

[denislajoie]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

I placed an ad in the I Sell its a magazine that you can buy sell or trade anything, the ad was placed on froday and by monday i had 3 calls, it works great, as for the reverse coil i will see once it is all together and working fine, i d like to have a spare in case i screw up<br />but i ll think of you.

 

[denislajoie]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

Hey guys, i forgot to notice when i disassembled ,the blue wire in the lower unit for the reverse coil, does it just sit on top of the clutches, cause its not very long and nothing is moving in that part of the engine, i know once it gets to the top it is held into some sort of plastic wedge with a screw and a large washer but from the coil to the wedge i cant seem to figure it out, any help would be nice...

 

[lark2004]

Re: Johnson super sea horse electramatic 40hp no forward

yeah, it comes out at the top, You may need to turn it a little to one side to get it to fit into the plastic clamp properly.<br /><br />try having a look at this link ( if it's ok with the mod's)<br /><br /> http://www.ishopmarine.com/ishop/js...~A0000021~M0011808~M0011829~M0011845~C0217511