Johnson year of mfg????

lakshmi369

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Pulling the bit of hair I have left out trying to run down actual year of mfg for my 85 hp Johnson. Its model# 6CB2004 and is somewhere between a 1970-1972 vintage....I think. Anyone know a site or just the info on actual year?

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Joe Reeves

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

That's not a model number. Where did you get that from?

There should be a small plate attached to the port transom bracket with the model and serial number imprinted upon it.
 

lakshmi369

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

I got it right off the same plate as the serial number.....said Model#. I will go back over it tomorrow and see if I can find a different #.
 

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

Does the tag say where it was manufactured? Could be foreign. OMC had plants all over the world. What is the serial number? That could hold a clue where it was made.
 

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

I'm assuming the engine is a 6hp model? If a older model of a 6hp, noting that there is a 2 after that "CB", my guess would be a 1972 6hp Johnson.

The "B" might indicate Belgium... the "C" = Canada??

Edited 06/29/13 - 11:40 AM.... Was just advised the engine is a 85hp. Apparently that 6CB2004 is not a model number.
 

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

It is an 85 HP and the serial# is 64230. I will get more info later today. Thanks for all the help folks!
 

lakshmi369

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

That's not a model number. Where did you get that from?

There should be a small plate attached to the port transom bracket with the model and serial number imprinted upon it.

Thanks Joe,

I checked on the transom bracket and found a different number than on the engine itself. Model: 85ESL-72R.

Makes my life easy....its a 1972! Thanks for the tip.

Now if I can find an operational controller cable for it I will be set!
 

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

What do you mean by " an operation controller cable" ??
 

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

What do you mean by " an operation controller cable" ??

I am in search of a controller cable for the 1972 Johnson 85HP but its the old Hyrdo-Electric style. The shop said they only made this style for 4 years and they did not have any parts for it. My controller and the parts controller I found used have been very tight and do not move freely enough to allow proper operation of the electric shift. I requested cable availabilty info through I-Boats parts so I have my fingers crossed!

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Re: Johnson year of mfg????

Any control box and throttle cable will work with that engine... BUT..........

I assume that you are looking for a control box that contains a hydro electric shift switch with the electric cable that extends from the control box to the engine.

You can no doubt find a control box and electric cable that extends to the engine so that the electric start and charging system works, and also the overheat warning system would be functional... HOWEVER, finding the proper Hydro Electric shift switch is very unlikely as they have been unavailable for many years and were extremely high in price when they were available. The following is one alternative for a shift switch replacement... another member has a different approach with a DPDT toggle which I suspect will be listed shortly.

(Toggle Shift Switch Setup For The Hydro Electric Shift Unit)
(J. Reeves)

NOTE (Disclaimer) - The following toggle setup will suffice BUT it is extremely dangerous. Should you use it, you are agreeing to use it at your own risk with myself disavowng any responsibility for its design or use.

Due to the unavailability of the "Push Button" (Evinrude) or "Toggle Type" (Johnson) shift switch that is required for the "Hydro Electric Shift" type lower units that existed between 1968 and 1972, many boaters have asked how they could rig up a toggle switch to perform this shifting function. There may be much better solutions but the following is what I have come up with.

One must keep in mind that wiring a toggle switch in such a manner allows one to accidently shift from forward to reverse at full throttle. This could and probably has resulted in injuries to boaters, not to mention the mechanical damage. Should this or any other problems arise/occur, I am in no way to be held responsible for the toggle switch to shift switch replacement mentioned here.

For the above reason, I strongly suggest that the toggle switch have a hinged hard case cover installed over it so that the toggle can never be thrown/toggled accidentally.

Now, with a single pole double throw toggle switch installed so the "Green" wire connection is facing up or away from you, make the following connections to the terminals on the back of the toggle switch.

......O <--- Green Wire

......O <--- 12 volt Supply

......O <--- Blue Wire

Now, between the Green wire and Blue wire terminal on the toggle switch, connect a diode capable of handling 12 volts (available at Radio Shack etc). Be sure to install the diode so that the voltage will travel from the Blue wire connection to the Green wire connection only...... and not vice versa!

Now, if you have installed the switch as above, with the toggle pulled all the way back (towards yourself), contact will be made between the 12v supply and the Green connection. This puts the unit in Neutral. The diode prevents any voltage from gaining access to the Blue connection.

Pushing the toggle lever to the middle position results in no voltage being supplied to either wire. This results in the spring loaded clutch shifter dog in the lower unit throwing the unit into forward gear.

Pushing the toggle switch lever all the way to the front position will have the center 12 volt supply connected to the Blue wire connection, and due to the diode, that 12 volt supply will also be supplied to the Green wire. This results in having the unit in reverse gear.
 
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