Judge Alito

[Kalian]

Hope we don't see a filibuster!<br />Your thoughts?

 

[aspeck]

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Filibuster is on the way.

 

[Boomyal]

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Much better than an unknown stealth candidate. Naming a stealth candidate to avoid a fight when you are in the position of strength was a foolish thing to do.<br /><br />They are already starting to howl. They are on the verge of losing their last 'legislative' stronghold. Bush has nothing to lose now by directing that the 'nuclear option' be used.

 

[LubeDude]

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I told ya all the next nomination would make the last one look like a liberal. Now this is what I call a conservative!

 

[mattttt25]

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this scares me. we'll feel bush's holy, conservative ways for years to come if the nomination goes through. if you support a woman's right to abortion and privacy, this is about as bad as it gets.

 

[rodbolt]

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its funny how Bush goes from one extreme to the other. as far as the NUKE thing the rhubs need to be careful what they wish for they may get it. if they use the NUKE option and next admin is top heavy with dumbocrats then they will use it as well.<br /> the abotion issue is a hot one. while I really dont support abortion as a method of birthcontrol I also dont support a govt that can say to a woman 2 months preggers what she can and cannot do. its well documented that in the absence of a safe legal and protected abortion they will resort to unsafe and unhealthy back room methods. just like prohibition, did not slow any drinkers down just made a select few very wealthy.<br /> so while nothing was known about miers, what we did find was she was rather middle of the road, alito may be a bit to conservative but time and some hearings will tell. I just hope it does not overshadow some of the other things the united states need to do.

 

[dogsdad]

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> its funny how Bush goes from one extreme to the other. as far as the NUKE thing the rhubs need to be careful what they wish for they may get it. if they use the NUKE option and next admin is top heavy with dumbocrats then they will use it as well.

The nuclear option has NOTHING to do with the composition of the administration.

 

[rodbolt]

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dogsdad<br /> did not say it did<br /> but when one side uses it cause they have the required majority the otherside will when they have the required majority. sometimes a sword cuts both ways.<br /> always be careful what ya wish for cause ya may actually get it.<br /> I would rather see a nominee be screened and his views be known before giving someone a lifetime pass. not saying a frivilous grilling like both sides have done in the past.

 

[QC]

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Let me ask a simple question. Does anybody think that if there was a Kerry (or Gore) presidency, and Congress was controlled by Dems, that they would spend one minute worrying about their choice being too left for the Republicans? This whole thing cracks me up. They need to get over it. I think they look silly. <br /><br />BTW, how could anybody have voted against Roberts? Mind blowing, the guy is as squeeky clean as you could find, he just leans towards a conservative interpretation of our Constitution, but his qualifications and record are impeccable.

 

[eeboater]

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Bush won... He gets to choose who goes on the Supreme Court. It's his "right." One of those REAL rights, not one of them "self-generated rights" that the left is so apt to locating in the supposed LIVING and BREATHING Constitution.<br /><br />All you lefties... get over it.

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> I would rather see a nominee be screened and his views be known before giving someone a lifetime pass. not saying a frivilous grilling like both sides have done in the past.

This statement make me think you do not understand the 'nuclear option' rodbolt. Of course your statement is responsible but once that discussion has taken place the President has the right to have his candidate given an up or down vote by the whole body.<br /><br />This is the first time that the filibuster has been used to keep candidates from getting that up or down vote. All the NO does is stop the fillibuster and allow that vote to occurr.<br /><br />In addition the fillibuster rules have been changed, by guess who, so that you don't even have to do anything to have a 'fillibuster'. All you have to do is say your having one, then go about your other business. Now that is not right. If you are going to fillibuster you ought to have to stay standing and talking for it's duration.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by Quietcat:<br /> Let me ask a simple question. Does anybody think that if there was a Kerry (or Gore) presidency, and Congress was controlled by Dems, that they would spend one minute worrying about their choice being too left for the Republicans? This whole thing cracks me up. They need to get over it. I think they look silly. <br /><br />

YA THINK??????

 

[pjc]

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I hope to see a filibuster, an the Repubes use the nuculer option. Force McCain to use it.<br />Luv It

 

[PW2]

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I am not too worried by a conservative court.<br /><br />I am not at all sure that's what some are after. I think what they are really hoping for is an obedient court.<br /><br />Which is why I think Alito may well be better all things considered than Meirs would have been.

 

[POINTER94]

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I guess we should look forward to this type of treatment for all future nominee's. This is not about qualifications or intellect, or moral fiber, it is about politics. If the Rep.'s would have applied the same standard, would Ginsburg be on the court? Can someone say radical? <br /><br />Advise and consent had to mean something different than having congress vote on, or they would have said congress gets to vote on. They didn't. Who do you think is hiding in semantics.

 

[Parrott_head]

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US Contitution<br />Art II, Sec II, Para II<br />

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The Presidents "Right" to appoint a member of the Supreme Court is not an absolute "Right".<br /><br />I would like to know more about Judge Alito's position that a married woman must tell her husband if she seeks an abortion.<br /><br />

Alito played a role in two high-profile abortion cases. In 1991, he voted to uphold a Pennsylvania law requiring a wife to tell her husband if she wants to have an abortion. That ruling was later struck down by the Supreme Court. In 2000, he ruled to overturn a New Jersey ban on a late-term procedure that opponents call partial-birth abortion, saying that he was bound by the Supreme Court ruling. The question will be whether he feels that as a member of the top court in the land, he would be free to change the course of laws concerning abortions.

(From PBS newsit via a Google search)<br /><br />As for the question of what the term "Advice and Consent" means historically here is a link that may help. "Advice and Consent" <br /><br />The way I read it it means that a simple majority is all that is required to to pass a motion of "Advice and Consent".<br /><br />As for the "nuclear option" I have to admit some degree of ignorance. I have heard it bandied about and thought I had a good comprehension of it. Did a search and came up with this on Wikipedia.com<br /><br />The reason this is called the "nuclear option" is made plain if you scroll down to the heading "Legitimacy of Filibustering Judicial Nominees".<br /><br />As for a fillibuster having never been used to block a Supreme Court nomination, that is not entirely correct. From the official US Senate web site.<br />I think in this case the fillibuster was wisely used. Sounds like Judge Fortas was not a good choice. <br /><br />Man, sure did do a lot of links. Hope I don't hit some sort of limit.<br /><br />I have an open mind to the nominee, will be interesting to see how his confirmation goes.

 

[Skinnywater]

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Since Bush was the "lessor of two evils". Last election I was a one issue voter, Supreme Court nominations. <br />I've been waiting for him to do what he was elected to do and with the Roberts and Alito appointments he's finally gotten around to representing his Conservative base.<br />Might be the first and last time in his two terms, but he did manage to finally throw a bone to the Conservatives.

 

[jimonica]

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"the President has the right to have his candidate given an up or down vote by the whole body".<br /><br />Is that what the Republicans said when they bottled up Clinton's nominees?<br /><br />Murder is murder. Doesn't matter if you use a gun or a knife their still dead.<br /> <br />Filibuster or bottled up in committee. The "whole body" didn't get to vote.

 

[POINTER94]

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Bottled up Clinton's nominees. 374 confirmations. The second most in history. In three plus terms Roosevelt only got 197. Confirmed Buzzy Ginzburg, Chief cousel of the ACLU (98-2 I think) Who is playing politics. The Democrats

 

[jimonica]

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63 bottled up in committee.<br />How many of Bush's are waiting for votes?