Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

mark777

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Hey folks,

Sadly I had to store my boat outside for a couple years and didn't make time to check in on it. The cover tore, leaves and debris got in and plugged the drain. After a while it filled with water and sat for a while.

It has been dry now for quite some time, but the flooring is shot. The engine has some rust on it as well.

Anyway, read a bunch of your posts about how to get started, so thought I'd share my project.

Here are a few pics of what I'm dealing with.

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx333/mark777_photos/DSCF0433.jpg

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx333/mark777_photos/DSCF0425.jpg

Any tips on removing the old flooring?

Mark
 

drewpster

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

I would remove as much of the stuff off the deck as I could. It would make it much easier if you could get those boxes and seats out of the way before taking up the deck. I would also inspect the stringers and make repairs while you have it apart. It may be a good idea to pull the engine also. I hear Bayliners have a hard time with stringer rot. Before you commit to that however you may want to drill some cores to see if the stringers are soaked.
 

ezmobee

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

I want to wish you luck on your project, and to commend you for admitting that you are the one who ruined the boat in the first place :)

Seriously though, welcome to iboats. There's a lot of great Bayliner projects going on with tons of good info.
 

mark777

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

Thanks for the welcome ezmobee.

drewpster, I believe you are right that there are issues with the stringers. The last time I had it in the water, if I hit a wave hard enough, the boat would flex and the center window would fall through. I would have to pry the two side windows appart to be able to lift the center window back through.

The engine will be coming out so that I can address the rust, repaint and rebuild. I have never done anything like this before so I'm guessing I am way over my head, but you have to start somewhere.
 

drewpster

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

"If your not in over your head, your not trying hard enough." Sam Harlin

It will take work and time but it will come together. There is inspiration and encouragement on every page here. We are all as crazy is you are so you are in good company.:D
drewp
 

TojosMojo

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

Looking forward to seeing some more pics of the boat... The severe flexing of the hull sounds as though the stringers are shot too, but even having one key structural component such as the floor/deck rotten could cause the flex you speak of...
 

wilkboater

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

We have a similar boat in the family(Father in laws, but we use it), it has two small soft spots at the rear of the boat, so I'm watching your thread with great interest. Post lots of pics, and post often.:)

Good luck with the project, the Bayliner crowd is behind you all the way. :cool:
 

scott11

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

I just recently bought a 79 wilker galaxy and noticed there was a soft spot in the floor near the back. It was left with about 3 feet at the back of the boat exposed to the weather and had a soft spot at the back corner of the deck. It drove me nutts so one day i decided to give it a good stomp and my foot went right through. After i started tearing it up i realized that my stringers are rotted right out from water sitting under the deck and the front 3/4 of the deck is still sturdy.
 

notsunkyet

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

hey there Mark777... Welcome to iboats! I have been trolling these waters for about 7 months now and have learned more than i than i thought possible form an open forum place... Having said that i am getting to the "cool" parts of my Bayliner. Its and 86 1600 capri outboard. ive done the stringers, deck transom and am to the carpet seat sewing part.

i got the POS and everything was rotten so i knew there was alot of work to be done...

Just some things ya might want to look out for and maybe use...
If you gonna tear it all out and redo then these worked for me greatly.... a Sawsall with LONG blades, the blade will conform to the inside of the hull and make cutting a breeze. I used Norton flapper disks 60 grit (anything heavier and youll eat glass too fast)from Home depot and they work great... Harbor frieght has em too but the HD lasts longer. get brushes from harbor frieght ... the sell them by the box and youll need them . Also GET A GOOD RESPIRATOR!!! not the paper mask covers! also ya might consider a TYVEK suit, get it 2 sixes too big youll thank me later.
And buy cheap tools not the good ones, your gonna destroy em the fiberglass eats the motors.... Oh yea... and i used an electric chain saw for my transom.. hehe went pretty quick lol ...
just for starters...

look up LOKEE's project he is doin Bayliner I/O and i doing a total resto. Awesome work.

When it comes to glass work anyone can help but i have found OOPS to be like the go to guy....

anyway if ya have any questions drop me a line be glad to help
 

eight tracker

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

remember to try and save as much as possible of the old wood parts to use as templates for the new wood so you have the right sizes,or feel free to customize the interior to your liking!
tom
 

notsunkyet

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

OH YEA! CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!! PICTURES TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES!!!! after a month or two (if your getting old lol) your memory gets real fuzzy lol
 

WAVENBYE2

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

We have a similar boat in the family(Father in laws, but we use it), it has two small soft spots at the rear of the boat, so I'm watching your thread with great interest. Post lots of pics, and post often.:)

Ya I am watching with interest too. Acouple of soft spots I am concerned with too.
 

mark777

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

Well before I start ripping out wood and coating my garage in fiberglass dust, I figure I'll see if the engine can be restored.

We recently had our garage rebuilt as the roof was sagging a bit. To make sure it didn't happen again, we went big. I thought about building a gantry crane like lowkee, but figured I'd trust our new roof for the job.

Hoist.jpg


Here is the ball of rust in the boat:

Enginein.jpg


Here is the dirty hole where it came from:

Engineout.jpg


Tonight I'll be mounting the engine on a stand so that I can drain the oil to see if there is any water in it. After that the tear down will begin.

Looking forward to seeing some more pics of the boat... The severe flexing of the hull sounds as though the stringers are shot too, but even having one key structural component such as the floor/deck rotten could cause the flex you speak of...

I poked around a bit and I'm guessing everything will need to be replaced.

hey there Mark777... Welcome to iboats! I have been trolling these waters for about 7 months now and have learned more than i than i thought possible form an open forum place... Having said that i am getting to the "cool" parts of my Bayliner. Its and 86 1600 capri outboard. ive done the stringers, deck transom and am to the carpet seat sewing part.

i got the POS and everything was rotten so i knew there was alot of work to be done...

Just some things ya might want to look out for and maybe use...
If you gonna tear it all out and redo then these worked for me greatly.... a Sawsall with LONG blades, the blade will conform to the inside of the hull and make cutting a breeze. I used Norton flapper disks 60 grit (anything heavier and youll eat glass too fast)from Home depot and they work great... Harbor frieght has em too but the HD lasts longer. get brushes from harbor frieght ... the sell them by the box and youll need them . Also GET A GOOD RESPIRATOR!!! not the paper mask covers! also ya might consider a TYVEK suit, get it 2 sixes too big youll thank me later.
And buy cheap tools not the good ones, your gonna destroy em the fiberglass eats the motors.... Oh yea... and i used an electric chain saw for my transom.. hehe went pretty quick lol ...
just for starters...

look up LOKEE's project he is doin Bayliner I/O and i doing a total resto. Awesome work.

When it comes to glass work anyone can help but i have found OOPS to be like the go to guy....

anyway if ya have any questions drop me a line be glad to help

Thanks for the tips notsunkyet. As I'm a newb to all of this, I am having to buy everything as I need it. So for now, I'm focusing on the tools that I will need to work on the engine. Once I know if the engine can be brought back to life I'll start to focus on the tear out of the floor/fiberglass.

remember to try and save as much as possible of the old wood parts to use as templates for the new wood so you have the right sizes,or feel free to customize the interior to your liking!
tom

This is definetaly the plan, we'll see how it works out.
 

mark777

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

It's been a while since my last post as the swine flu took me out for a couple weeks. Now that I am back on my feet, I have started working on the boat again.

I was hoping that there would not be any water inside the engine, but there was.

Pistons.jpg


Luckily, only one of the cylinders has rust in it and should be fine once it is honed out. Doubt you can see the rust, but everything else looks brand new.

Bottomofengine.jpg


cylinders.jpg


Now that I have exposed most of the deck, I'm fairly confident that the stringers are all perfectly dry, but I've been wrong before. From what I have exposed so far, both the stringer and the foam is dry as a bone.

Here are some pics of the progress so far.

foam.jpg


Foamremoved.jpg


And here is a bit of the foam exposed under the deck, bad angle, but its dry and the stringer is hard as a rock.

floorremoved.jpg


Well, time to get dirty, have a good weekend y'all.

Mark
 

PiratePast40

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Re: Just getting started on my 1988 bayliner capri

Glad to hear you're taking the time to verify the power plant. Better to get the complete story early than to have that danged annoying thing called reality show up later. :D
 
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