Kurt, Kurt, Kurt...................

[WIMUSKY]

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while i don't like the Bush brothers, i don't like the way NASCAR is going. he talked crap to a news reporter ! why was that ok when tony stewart did the same thing ? the probation enforcement should be upheld during racing events only. NASCAR is too far reaching with the private lives of drivers and yet they themselves do the same stuff.
i guess NASCAR saying "let boys be boys" only refers to the boys doing and saying what NASCAR wants. all the reporters have to do is stay away from drivers that have short fuses, then the attention wouldn't be focused on the bad stuff.
jeff gordon questioned the "phantom caution" last week when no debris was picked up where it was reported in turn four.... fine him too ? we need the bad boys as much as we need the good guys in racing, if all driver had the same temperament as jr, it would be pretty boring....getting fined and suspended for on track incidents is one thing, but these were words, words directed at a non competitor...a person who sought out bush and got what he wanted....over words....like i said, i don't care for bush, but he was suspended for talking crap....as long as there wasn't swearing, what happened to freedom of speech ?

It was more than just "talking crap" to a news reporter, he threatened bodily harm. When you're on probabtion already, your going to be watched like a hawk. You make a wrong move and NASCAR is going to nail ya. Otherwise, why put anyone on probation. And it was a racing event, he was still at the track. Doesn't matter if you purposely tangle with someone on the track, or, have a confrontation off.

As far as reporters staying away from short fused drivers, never going to happen. In fact, those are the guys the reporters are going to seek out. Kurt's comments fell right in the reporter's lap. Kurt just can't control himself. It's not like that was the first reporter to talk to him after the race either. He already did a live interview and talked to other reporters. He probably thought the cameras were off and he could get away with one. Must have forgot about every cell phone can shoot video.

Jeff Gordon? Apples and oranges. Freedom of speech? Can't yell fire in a crowded theater.... You don't have too many freedoms while on probation......

I agree, we need all kinds of personalities in NASCAR. Thing is, NASCAR needs to draw the line somewhere........

 

[QC]

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Freedom of speech?

This is funny to me how this always comes up. Even here at iboats when we edit posts :facepalm: There is no freedom of speech involved with private companies. Freedom of speech allows you to talk carp about our government in public. It does not allow you to tell your boss he is a moron. This latest Kurt thing reminded me of Ricky Bobby and "with all due respect". He thought he could say anything he wanted to his boss if he said "with all due respect" first. Kurt thought he could say, "well I probably shouldn't say that while on probation" and make it all better. You simply can't tell reporters or fans or customers or a franchise type partner (NASCAR) to go flip themselves and expect to keep your current arrangement intact. Period.

 

[isimar]

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i agree whole heartedly.....it's funny how things that used to be acceptable now gets you into serious trouble....things like the way dale sr used to "rattle cages" and tony stewart having incidents with reporters....i used to be a season ticket holder at darlington every year, but with the kind of racing we have now, i can't justify the spending..in fact, i can't stay awake during the races any more ! lol
NASCAR does have a line, they just keep moving to any time they don't like something.....i used to be a moderator on what used to be the largest NASCAR site on the web...NASCAR told them they wouldn't advertise on the site any more if they allowed some of the things written about them there...the site was run by the Charlotte Observer and the site was called " thatsracin.com"....they wanted me to crack down too much, so i quit....that was 5 yrs ago when they had over 5500 members....now they have MAYBE 10.....and NASCAR does advertise to this day.....so i'll admit, i'm biased about NASCAR and their far reaching desire to have control....NASCAR has become too PC.....they forgot what got them to this point, and looking into the stands doesn't dawn on them that maybe they should try going back to their roots. yeah, boo on Bush for falling into the reporters trap....it now gives reporters power they've never had to needle a driver to the point of a verbal response such as push saying " being on probation stops me from kicking the $h** out of you for asking such a stupid question"(which could've been taken out of context and not threat at all )....now we will be neglected the opportunity of watching a driver getting put in his place by another driver for spouting off ! and that's about all we had to look forward too !! lol

 

[isimar]

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NASCAR Kurt bush on probation for the incident in Phoenix(sp?) a while back, away from the track, Kyle got probation for his driving carelessly in NC, Sorenson got probation for DUI off the track, Mike Waltrip got nothing for his drinkin accident a fews miles form his home(never heard much after the first week)...... they all got probation for something that happened on ther own time away from the track......wait for it....
and yet Mike Helton wrecked his Lexus in front of his condo after sideswiping a car on the roadway....with witnesses.
that incident went away very quietly and quickly..lol
the point is, they ALL had a refection on NASCAR .....i understand the "free speech" deal, what is written on an owned site does not require free speech, it requires people to follow the written rules.

 

[muskyone]

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i forever wait for someone to tell me one thing kyles done that is so bad? Why is it kurt says something to a reporter and all the haters start bashing kyle for it? i would take kyle over jr any-day at least the busch bros have personality unlike jr who cant get a sentence out and I've never heard him give a interview with out swearing but the sheep love him. and the reporter in ? doesn't agree with this suspension.

 

[QC]

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i forever wait for someone to tell me one thing kyles done that is so bad?

Other than trying to kill Hornaday? And eliminating him from a potential Championship under yellow? I guess nuttin' . . .

Oh yeah, and he pushed Harvick's car down pit road with no driver in it. Give me a minute, I'll think of sumpin' serious though.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Ya, Kyle has a long rap sheet. He has a lot of history of bad behavior that NASCAR isn't going to put up with anymore.

On to Pocono! I heard all the drivers broke the track record for average speed, at least in practice. The fastest broke it by 7mph. That was a couple days ago. Cool........ Watching Indycar at Texas as we speak since there's no Nationwide.....

 

[catfishcarl99]

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ya. that boys carrear is tanked. look for this ride to be gone soon. i watch a lil nascar. hence the carl99 in my username. carl edwards #99.

 

[muskyone]

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hornady took himself out when he intentionally wrecked kyle so his owner could win the race and the championship. harvics whole crew was there becuse harvics a [chicken] so kyle was supposed to get out and let harvicks guys have at it. again kyle has done nothing wrong except constantly beat up on your drivers so ya hate him. as far as sr goes jr himself said his daddy would of loved both kyles driving and attitude. so i'm waiting for something real. hornady should of been parked for wrecking kbms chance at a repeat owners championship

 

[QC]

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I don't hate Kyle. I think he may be the most talented driver out there . . . Careful with your word choices

 

[catfishcarl99]

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Other than trying to kill Hornaday? And eliminating him from a potential Championship under yellow? I guess nuttin' . . .

Oh yeah, and he pushed Harvick's car down pit road with no driver in it. Give me a minute, I'll think of sumpin' serious though.

messed with carl at bristol and got turned around if front of 100,000 cheering fans. and one at home lol.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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again kyle has done nothing wrong except constantly beat up on your drivers so ya hate him.

Ya, that's it.

 

[GA_Boater]

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The good thing about the KuBu saga is he didn't get a pit road speeding penalty today. Just about the only driver who didn't. 22 of them, almost half the field. Almost half cause Jimmy Johnson got two, the second for speeding during the drive through for the first "ticket" and Travis Kvapil was hit three times.

 

[NSBCraig]

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hornady took himself out when he intentionally wrecked kyle so his owner could win the race and the championship. harvics whole crew was there becuse harvics a [chicken] so kyle was supposed to get out and let harvicks guys have at it. again kyle has done nothing wrong except constantly beat up on your drivers so ya hate him. as far as sr goes jr himself said his daddy would of loved both kyles driving and attitude. so i'm waiting for something real. hornady should of been parked for wrecking kbms chance at a repeat owners championship

Took himself out?

Me thinks you were watchin a different race.

 

[QC]

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Yeah, I was stumped by that one too. Decided to leave it alone. Oh well . . .

 

[catfishcarl99]

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Took himself out?

Me thinks you were watchin a different race.

ya aparently didnt see the one i did when kyle crashed him under caution.

well nascar doesnt park drivers for doing nothing. and M&M pulled off the car for the last three races in 2011 for the hornaday incident. so obviously that "is so bad" lol.

not to mention his reckless driving incident in the lexus. during the same time frame. hin and his brother both have serious aditude problems. kurt needs permently banned. kyle. hes calmed down since the gibbs warning last fall. but for how long??? nobody knows when the next time the ticking bomb will explode. ide like to see him get in edwards face lol. but i dont want my man suspended though. thought the old man gave him a dutch rub lol.