Leaf spring band-aid? - 6 People Didn't Die

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89mercruiser

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I agree with fixing it now. I wouldn't move that trailer an inch. It's all able to be done with it on the trailer. Think about it if you took it to a trailer shop they'd do the same thing jack up the trailer with boat on it to fix it.
 

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I agree with fixing it now. I wouldn't move that trailer an inch. It's all able to be done with it on the trailer. Think about it if you took it to a trailer shop they'd do the same thing jack up the trailer with boat on it to fix it.

Round trip to the ramp and back is about 1/3 the distance to the nearest trailer shop (and about the same distance to an auto mechanic).

I agree that it should be fixed before moving it, but.....

If you're on your way home from let's say Merlin Lake (WA), and you loose a leaf spring. You are about 15-20 miles of winding road before you come to the nearest facilities that would have tools and possibly a new leaf spring. What would you do? Leave the boat on the side of the 2 lane highway in the grass? Call a wrecker?

Seriously, there are thousands upon thousands of trailers being hauled weekly/daily, and there have to be some that have broken/damaged springs, bald tires, bad bakes, no working lights, or some other malfunction (known or not) and get moved and life goes on. I want to move the trailer 1.5 miles, not across country. We unknowingly hauled and moved the boat without the spring, and I'm trying to see if I can do a roadside repair.
 

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If you're on your way home from let's say Merlin Lake (WA), and you loose a leaf spring. You are about 15-20 miles of winding road before you come to the nearest facilities that would have tools and possibly a new leaf spring. What would you do? Leave the boat on the side of the 2 lane highway in the grass? Call a wrecker?

That's EXACTLY what you do.

Seriously, there are thousands upon thousands of trailers being hauled weekly/daily, and there have to be some that have broken/damaged springs, bald tires, bad bakes, no working lights, or some other malfunction (known or not) and get moved and life goes on. I want to move the trailer 1.5 miles, not across country. We unknowingly hauled and moved the boat without the spring, and I'm trying to see if I can do a roadside repair.

I'm glad I don't live near Treasure Island Florida when you attempt to move this "accident in the making".

Please, call a large tow truck....have them install a wheel dolly under the broken wheel and pay them to tow the boat to a trailer shop if you're not going to perform the repairs yourself. The price for a tow truck is far less expensive than attornies fees for WHEN you hurt or kill someone due to your negligence.
 

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Beefer, what you are doing is illegal and potentially dangerous.... You already know that.... you aren't the only one who would do it..... That's obvious from the mere fact that several people here have ways to do it..... I did the exact thing I suggested after having a second tire blowout on my 5th wheel on the way to the tire shop..... Seriously though..... the safe and legal answer to your last question is "call a wrecker" duh..... the speculation on how many others drag dangerous junk on public roads is irrelevant

Now that that is out of the way, you know what you SHOULD do and you know what you are GOING to do......

So now you have the obvious advice on the right thing to do AND a few ideas on how to try to get away with it. No point in trying to convince the WWW of your virtue.

BTW you could potentially do more $$$ damage to your trailer and tires towing it than what it would cost to hire a wrecker..... Might at least make a few phone calls
 

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Also consider that if more rusted out parts let go on your trailer on the way you may tear up otherwise good(ish) parts and be stuck calling a wrecker from the side of the road anyway


either way.. good luck
 

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Also - if you're not thinking of the potential harm to others, think of the harm to your boat. if the axle swings, it could run the wheel assembly,under your hull, run the rim under the trailer and flop it, or other such bad things. look at my Avatar, and think how sickening the feeling is, looking at your baby beached, on the ROAD!
 

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O.K. so now that you've been bashed, LOL.. I agree with the poster that said it looks like you lost the U bolts at the axel. If that's the case it won't take much to slam those tires together on the road and possibly flip the trailer. I'd go get some new U bolts and a piece of plate and see what I could do to get that axel moved back where it belongs and bolted back to the springs. That might take you a half a day and a couple of beers that you can actually enjoy.
 

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The block of wood trick don't always work, it often just slips and rubs the tire or something.
You could remove both wheels on that axle and try to make the trip on one axle if the other axle will hold the weight.

I was driving out of upper NY state all the way to southern NJ with a two week flatbed tandem trailer two years ago when the front left spring broke free of the axle and front spring hanger. The whole spring was gone and no where to be seen on a major highway at 2AM, with a trailer loaded with tractors and parts. I was 100 miles from home. I pulled over as far as I could off the highway, far enough so I wouldn't be a road hazard, I took out my bag of 2" tie down ratchet straps and pulled the axle back into position. I put one strap on from the front, and another from the rear both pulling against one another to keep the axle centered. I then drove to the next exit as slowly as traffic would allow and proceeded to come up with a better rig to make it home. I ended up taking a chunk of 6x6 lumber or railroad tie and strapping it in place above the spring and axle, ratchet tying it to both the axle and frame using the deck boards to hold it from moving. I got took lesser roads home at much slower speeds. There was no other option, a tow truck would have cost thousands to move that load and I'd have lost most of it to theft if I left it.
There was no way that axle or anything else could fall off, and the worst case scenario was that it slid back out of alignment and contacted the rear tire again.
It made the whole ride home and never moved. I took the trailer back to the dealer, they replaced both springs on that axle and both tires since they got scuffed up pretty bad when the spring snapped. The trailer was far from overloaded, in fact, it had less than 1/4 of it's capacity on it when the spring broke. It's been fine since.
If I had to have it towed, no doubt the trailer manufacturer would be on the hook for the tow, but I'd be out the value of anything that got taken while it sat. The tow would have no doubt exceeded the value of the trailer as it would have needed to be put on a low boy and pulled with a tractor trailer due to it's length and height.

A broken spring isn't like a bad wheel bearing, the wheel isn't likely to fall off, but you can tear up tires or due other damage is its allowed to move around. Driving without suspension also is hard on the boat and trailer, which is what you are doing by putting wood in there and securing the axle to it.
If your not used to towing things or rigging damaged vehicles for moving, you may be better off just borrowing another trailer to make it to the water, then get that one looked at and fixed. Usually on a boat trailer, if one spring lets loose like that, the others aren't far behind. Since all you have to strap to is a single frame rail on a boat trailer, any spacer you add is likely to slip and contact the tire.
 

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Looks like another trailer that is going to be on the side of the road doing repairs.
 

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I burned up a wheel bearing on a tandem axle trailer with a heavy 23' deckboat on it a few years ago just outside of town. I ended up removing the wheel, sticking a block of wood between the axle and the trailer frame, and chaining that end of the axle up to the frame. I was able to limp the trailer back into town on three wheels with no problem. I just took it slow with the emergency flashers on. Probably traveled a total of 8 miles. Funny thing is, this was all at the recommendation of the tow truck that we called. They had no equipment available to tow a boat that size, said we'd have to get a low-boy semi trailer to haul it - which you're talking big bucks for an 8 mile tow.

Bash all you want, but some of you guys talk like he's transporting a nuclear bomb or something. If he takes it slow with his flashers on, he's not going to kill anybody. Could he damage his boat or trailer further - sure, but that's his choice.
 

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As the new title reads, 6 people didn't die, nobody got hurt, and there wasn't millions in property damage because I moved the boat. No nuclear bombs went off, either.

Moved it last night. Stuck a 2x4 between the axle and frame, and all went well. Neighbor brought the trailer back, and the block of wood was still there. Went smooth as I could have possibly hoped for.

Not saying it was the safest, or smartest, but it was something that needed to be done. To those with real ideas, thanks. And for you Nanny-state nay-sayers, thanks for the bashing. :p
 

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That's EXACTLY what you do.



I'm glad I don't live near Treasure Island Florida when you attempt to move this "accident in the making".

Please, call a large tow truck....have them install a wheel dolly under the broken wheel and pay them to tow the boat to a trailer shop if you're not going to perform the repairs yourself. The price for a tow truck is far less expensive than attornies fees for WHEN you hurt or kill someone due to your negligence.

Ditto. Safety first. This is CHEAP insurance compared to endangering your property and more importantly someone's life. Not even something to discuss.
 

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Glad your safe, Beefer, and your boat too!

That's just the life we live in Florida.;)
 

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Good on ya for gettin' it done. Although I thought for sure I'd see a story on the news about all the mass casualties you were sure to cause ;)
 

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Good on ya for gettin' it done. Although I thought for sure I'd see a story on the news about all the mass casualties you were sure to cause ;)

Well, the news crews were there, but didn't think "Man successfully tows boat to ramp" would make for good ratings. :D
 

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Ditto. Safety first. This is CHEAP insurance compared to endangering your property and more importantly someone's life. Not even something to discuss.
Seriously? Someone's life? Curious how some think that this is going to hurt or kill someone in the scenario the OP presented.
 

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Seriously? Someone's life? Curious how some think that this is going to hurt or kill someone in the scenario the OP presented.

Well, if it's not a safe vehicle to have on the road anyone could get hurt. I spent 10 years as a paramedic and I can honestly tell you people get hurt or killed every day by silly accidents, or worse yet needless accidents caused by folks who didn't think through what they were doing. Duct tape, wire or even a 2 by 4 are not
effective band aids against equipment failure. Maybe in your back yard they are, but not when my families safety is at risk. I suppose you think it's OK to have a beer, then drive your car too. Well ask the guy that hit my family head on at 65 miles an hour....caused my daughter to have brain surgery, broke my moms back and put my dad in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Yeah that guy wasn't drunk, he was legal to drive, but fell asleep because of the alcohol. He also thought it was OK to drive "a couple of miles" It killed him and wreaked havoc on my family. So do you really want to ask me that question again?

Joe
 

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snif...... snif snif......... what's that smell.............................
Is that maybe the smell of a locked thread? :rolleyes::facepalm:
 
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