Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

dannieboiz

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I just spent some pretty penny rebuilding my bennett hydraulic trim tabs and replacing the old rotary switch to a toggle style switch. After getting everything installed (was in a hurry) I realized the hydraulic pump and the switch cost me almost as much as the Lenco electric trim tabs. I'm kind of kicking myself at this point for not checking with some of you guys first. This is my first ever boat with trim tabs and have never had experience with them. FIrst Sea trial is tomorrow after all the major overhaul.
 

Silver Heels

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Re: Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

I'll admit that I have zero experience with Lencos, but I did put on Bennets a couple years ago and couldn't be happier. Both have their followers, but I personally would choose Bennets again in a heartbeat. Bennets are more expensive because their is a lot more to them, so that is why rebuilding your old ones cost more than a set of Lencos. I think that you'll be happy with your decision to stick with fixing the great tabs you already have.
 

Tabman

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Re: Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

Dannieboiz,

I hope your sea trial went well. It sounds like your Trim Tabs might be original equipment on your boat. Do you know what was wrong with the pump? Often they can be repaired with out completely replacing them. Did you contact anybody at our factory when you were doing the rebuilding? We frequently send out parts to repair systems at no charge, even ones as old as yours.

In the future please contact us if you have any questions or need any assistance with your Trim Tabs and we will be delighted to help. I can always be reached here at I-boats too.

By the way, your new Rocker Switch and Hydraulic Power unit are covered by a 5-year warranty.

Since this is your first boat with Trim Tabs here is a guide I have posted before on using them that you may find helpful;

Getting and Staying Trimmed

All boats assume different fore to aft attitudes at different throttle settings and vary in sensitivity to lateral weight distribution.

A boat?s optimum running attitude is determined by the operator. While some people may define optimum running attitude as the highest possible speed for a given amount of engine RPMs, others desire the best possible fuel economy, yet others may be trimming the boat to get just the right mix of speed and wake (such as for waterskiing.)
Optimum running attitude is when the boat is running to the operator?s satisfaction for the given operating conditions. There are as many optimum running attitudes as there are boats and boat owners

A good way to determine a boats optimum running angle (see side bar Optimum Running Attitude) is to run the boat lightly loaded at full speed in calm water. During this test observe the boat?s bow in relation to the horizon. Most boats run at or near their optimum attitude under these conditions. This should give you a feel for the appearance of the wake and bow spray when running at an efficient attitude. Note that not all boats will achieve their optimum running attitude under these conditions. Some boats will benefit from extra lift even when running at their maximum throttle settings. If you feel the boat will benefit from added bow down trim when running at speed start with the trim tabs fully up and deflect the trim tabs in short bursts. Be alert to changes in the boats handling, as you bring the bow down. Observe any changes in RPMs and/or speed. Adjust power trim if applicable.

Indications of Running Untrimmed
When a boat is running untrimmed the bow spray will exit the sides of the boat far aft. The stern wave (wake) is high and curling like a breaker on the beach. The rooster tail is high and close to the stern. The engine is laboring and the ride tends to be less smooth.

Indications of Running Trimmed
The bow spray moves forward and is flung not as far from the boat. The wake diminishes in height, as the rooster tail flattens out and moves away from the boat. The engine is operating under less load as evidenced by the tachometer and speed as well as sounding ?less strained?.

One Step at a Time
The key to obtaining optimal results from trim tabs is to operate them in short ?bursts? and let the boat react before making another adjustment. The amount of time between corrections is influenced by the size of the trim tabs and the boat?s speed. This will help avoid overtrimming or ending up with one tab too far down when correcting lateral trim. You will quickly become acquainted with a boat?s particular traits.

Take Off
Properly sized trim tabs can significantly reduce the time needed to get up on plane. They also allow a boat to keep its bow down and stay on plane at lower speeds.
As the throttle is advanced the stern of the boat begins to squat, lifting the bow. As the boat accelerates, push the bow down position of the helm control in short bursts. The boat reacts by the stern lifting, the bow coming down, speed increasing, and reduced engine laboring. If you over do it and deflect the tabs too far the boat will end up overtrimmed. When over trimmed, the steering becomes ?over sensitive? and wants to pull off course to port or starboard. If this occurs, operate the control ?bow up" until the desired attitude is established.

Getting the Most from Power Trim
Adjust the trim tabs to achieve the desired running attitude. Then use the power trim to position the propeller thrust parallel to the water flow. If necessary, re-adjust the trim tabs to fine tune the attitude. By observing the boat?s speed and engine RPMs the best combination of trim tabs and power trim will be apparent. Trim tab angle indicators and a power trim angle indicator are particularly useful in duplicating effective settings.

Trimming to Sea Conditions
When running into a head sea you want to trim the bow down so the sharp forward sections of the boat do their work cleaving the waves. This provides the most comfortable ride and minimizes stress on the boat (and passengers). In a following sea the tabs should be fully retracted for maximum steering response.
Correction of a List

The normal control setup for trim tabs operates in relation to the desired changes in trim and not the actual movement of the tabs. Therefore, do not think about what the tabs are doing, but rather on the control and what you want the boat to do. As above, make the corrections in bursts and allow the boat to settle to the new settings. You may find it easier to correct the boat?s fore and aft attitude before you correct the side to side trim.

Correction of Porpoising
Operate the tabs in very short bursts of about half a second. Continue until porpoising subsides. The objective is to have only a very slight amount of tab deflection, just the amount needed to cure the up and down motion of the bow.
 

dannieboiz

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Re: Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

Tom,
That's great to know that company's are lurking around these forums looking to help their customers.

Everything happened so fast and repairing (waiting) wasn't an option, I just spent lots of money on putting the new engine in where the cost of the trim tabs seems like nothing (But I'm feeling the pinch now after things quiet down) lol

Sea Trial went well, at first I thought trim tabs would correct listing while anchored. I guess it's mainly for motoring. :)
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

excellent description. let me add a warning for new users: if you trim the bow too low, it can dig in and veer violently. Scary. try it in safe conditions (brace yourself) so you will know.

I have lenco electrics b/c they came with the boat (used). So far pretty good although the previous owner replaced an actuator and the other one (after I bought it) went out for a while then resurrected. I think it's just the electric motor in salt water thing. I also added zincs to the top of the tabs.
 

dannieboiz

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Re: Lenco Electric vs Bennett Hydraulic trim tabs?

excellent description. let me add a warning for new users: if you trim the bow too low, it can dig in and veer violently. Scary. try it in safe conditions (brace yourself) so you will know.

I have lenco electrics b/c they came with the boat (used). So far pretty good although the previous owner replaced an actuator and the other one (after I bought it) went out for a while then resurrected. I think it's just the electric motor in salt water thing. I also added zincs to the top of the tabs.

You hit it right on the dot! I wasn't able to take the boat to full speed since I'm not familiar with the trim settings. At one point I had one of the trim down too much and as I was speeding up the boat leaned a lot on one side, I quickly pull back throttle and that's when hell broke loose. One side of the boat leaned so much that I almost took on water to the side. It was scary. I'm going to be doing some more playing around next week. :)
 
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