Looking for Titan Model 60 rebuilt kit - 1" piston

[Homerr]

I am looking for a Titan/Dico model 60 master cylinder rebuild kit. The number on the bottom of the master cylinder is 23361 and it has the 1" piston.
Apparently they changed to an 1-1/4" piston some time ago, so finding the 1" kit has been (so far) unsuccessful. The kit part # is 068-032-00 or 1502600.

Any idea where I can find a kit? I'm hoping there's some old stock somewhere collecting dust?
I really don't want to buy another master cylinder when all I need are a few cheap seals!

Thanks,

 

[dingbat]

I am looking for a Titan/Dico model 60 master cylinder rebuild kit. The number on the bottom of the master cylinder is 23361 and it has the 1" piston.
Apparently they changed to an 1-1/4" piston some time ago, so finding the 1" kit has been (so far) unsuccessful. The kit part # is 068-032-00 or 1502600.

Any idea where I can find a kit? I'm hoping there's some old stock somewhere collecting dust?
I really don't want to buy another master cylinder when all I need are a few cheap seals!

Thanks,

The model 60/660 is a rebadged Tiedown unit.

The actuator was a “disposable” $129 unit back in the day. I think I paid $109 for mine.

The original docs don’t list nor offer a rebuild kit for the master cylinder. A new master was something like $60.

The model 60 was updated and rebadge in 2012. Any “old stock” kits would be well beyond their life expectancy. I certainly would use one

If your intent, tear it down, size and source the replacements yourself. No rock science involved in oring sizing.

 

[bruceb58]

It is not a rebadged Tiedown unit. Its still a Titan Dico unit. I know because I just abought a few of them for my trailer and for others. https://smile.amazon.com/TITAN-DICO...o+model+60&qid=1625695656&s=automotive&sr=1-4


They have replacement master cylinders for these.

Here is the drum version

https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Titan/T4395100.html

The 1" master cylinders are obsolete. They are all bigger than that now as you have found. Personally, rebuilding a master cylinder, especially a trailer master cylinder is an exercise in futility.

 

[dingbat]

You are correct.

Dexter is stil marketing the old Tiedown model 66/660 under the Dexter name

 

[bruceb58]

You are correct.

Dexter is stil marketing the old Tiedown model 66/660 under the Dexter name

Hopefully people realize it's still the POS Tiedown.

 

[dingbat]

Hopefully people realize it's still the POS Tiedown.

Whats the story behind your hard-on with Tiedown?

Their brakes are useless but I’ve had good luck with my model 66 actuator as had a number of other people I know who run them.

I went that direction solely on the fact that the master cylinder is aluminum. Saved me from replacing rusted out master cylinders every couple of years.

It solved a problem and I’m good with that. A 15-16 year old actuator that cost me $129 owes me nothing.

 

[bruceb58]

Whats the story behind your hard-on with Tiedown?

Their brakes are useless but I’ve had good luck with my model 66 actuator as had a number of other people I know who run them.

I went that direction solely on the fact that the master cylinder is aluminum. Saved me from replacing rusted out master cylinders every couple of years.

It solved a problem and I’m good with that. A 15-16 year old actuator that cost me $129 owes me nothing.

Where should I start:

1) Disc brake rotors that warped...every single one of them
2) Disk brake calipers that seize
3) Lug studs that snap even when using a torque wrench to tighten to spec.
4) Brake master cylinder that leaks after 3 year.

Replaced their disc brakes with Kodiak..no problems for years now
Replaced their crappy surge actuator with Dico...no issues now.

 

[Homerr]

Thanks for the replies! I did manage to finally locate a rebuild kit for the 1" master cylinder. It's all back together and works great. I saved about 50% - 60% over the cost of a new master cylinder. I doubt I'll be able to get away with this next time, so I'll upgrade to the 1-1/4" when I have to. Heck, I may even play around with it after it wears out again and chuck it up in my Bridgeport mill and bore it out. If I mess it up - oh well - it would be fun trying (yes - us old machinist get bored too... lol). You can readily get the 1-1/4 kits.

I also rebuilt both wheel cylinders. Cost was about $5 per side. Normally I'd just buy new ones, but the cylinders are in excellent shape except the boots - they were cracked from sitting for so many years. The bores are perfect and not a scratch on them (and the only reason I rebuilt them). So in the end, I saved about $40 - $60.

As I can't stand paying dealer markup prices (who does?), I always try to cut the 'middle-man' and find WHO makes our parts. In this case: our brake parts. Both my master and wheel cylinder rebuild kits came in boxes labeled: "TCIC" (Tae Chul Industrial Co.). Korean I believe. I'm not sure if they sell direct. Probably not.

 

[Scott Danforth]

if your that tight that you cant replace the whole master cylinder on a boat trailer, boating is not a hobby for you.

I wouldnt trust 10 year old korean made rubber bits

wheel cylinders come on loaded backing plates. I think the last time I paid under $100 for new backing plates, all hardware, wheel cylinders, etc.

 

[Homerr]

if your that tight that you cant replace the whole master cylinder on a boat trailer, boating is not a hobby for you.

I wouldnt trust 10 year old korean made rubber bits

wheel cylinders come on loaded backing plates. I think the last time I paid under $100 for new backing plates, all hardware, wheel cylinders, etc.

I've been boating for 30 years and it's not a matter of being 'tight'. I just don't like being ripped off and I don't mind getting my hands dirty.

That's the problem with today.. people are too damned lazy and would rather replace it than fix it.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Im all for fixing things that can be fixed. however for trailer brake parts, I would not trust 10 year old rubber bits.

 

[bruceb58]

Im all for fixing things that can be fixed. however for trailer brake parts, I would not trust 10 year old rubber bits.

I never ever rebuild master cylinders or slave cylinders....penny wise pound foolish.