Losing loved ones to Death

DayCruiser

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When you get phones call like your best friend just blew his head off with a shot gun at age 16 and a call from a frantic daughter that your 4 year old granddaughter was just pulled from the family pool dead, you harden up a bit. You learn put things into perspective and you move on with your life.

Then there is the alternative. I stood by and watched my grandfather waste away to nothing because refused to continue his life after grandma passed away. Self pity and selfishness took his life. He was my grandfather and mentor growing up. I love and respected him more than my own father, but I’ll never forgive him for being that selfish.

FWIW: From Websters:

Self-pity is the psychological state of mind of an individual in perceived adverse situations who has not accepted the situation and does not have the confidence nor ability to cope with it.

That is terrible, what happened around you but did you ever think your grandpa might have been Clinically depressed? I stated that if improvement doesn't come after the stages then a person might be depressed and therefore in need of medication. Clinical depression:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/depression/DS00175

"Depression is a medical illness that causes a persistent feeling of sadness and loss of interest. Depression can cause physical symptoms, too.

Also called major depression, major depressive disorder and clinical depression, it affects how you feel, think and behave. Depression can lead to a variety of emotional and physical problems. You may have trouble doing normal day-to-day activities, and depression may make you feel as if life isn't worth living.

More than just a bout of the blues, depression isn't a weakness, nor is it something that you can simply "snap out" of. Depression is a chronic illness that usually requires long-term treatment, like diabetes or high blood pressure. But don't get discouraged. Most people with depression feel better with medication, psychological counseling or other treatment. "


Many elderly are bad about not getting treatment for mental problems. Back before 1980 mental problems were stigmatized. Saying you were depressed could get to electric shock treatments and/or committed to a mental institution.
Sounds like you are still grieving over your grandpas death and your way of coping it is redirecting your feelings toward anger. Many use anger to cope with the loss of a loved one. Like a woman losing her husband--He left me with these kids and all these bills!!! Yea like he had a choice. But anger can be a coping mechanism. There is that self pity you so much disdain. When you forgive your grandpa and start understanding that he may have had a serious medical condition then you can grieve properly and move on
 

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After having lost my first spouse at her young age of 48 it changed the way I view the world.

Thanks to friends I made it through.
 

dingbat

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Sounds like you are still grieving over your grandpas death and your way of coping it is redirecting your feelings toward anger. Many use anger to cope with the loss of a loved one. Like a woman losing her husband--He left me with these kids and all these bills!!! Yea like he had a choice. But anger can be a coping mechanism. There is that self pity you so much disdain. When you forgive your grandpa and start understanding that he may have had a serious medical condition then you can grieve properly and move on

The problem with trying to psycho-analyze someone you don?t know over the internet is that you often end up looking like a fool.

Case in point.
Anger, depressed, who me? You got to be kidding. ROFLMAO. I?ve been called insensitive, self centered, and belligerent, but never angry or depressed. Life?s too short to be either. It must be the Vulcan in me :D:D

I've been married to someone diagnosed with manic depression for almost 30 years. I think I can figure out the telltale signs of depression without a cut and paste from Google. ;)

Starving yourself to death is hardly a serious medical condition. :rolleyes:
 

DayCruiser

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The problem with trying to psycho-analyze someone you don’t know over the internet is that you often end up looking like a fool.

Case in point.
Anger, depressed, who me? You got to be kidding. ROFLMAO. I’ve been called insensitive, self centered, and belligerent, but never angry or depressed. Life’s too short to be either. It must be the Vulcan in me :D:D

I've been married to someone diagnosed with manic depression for almost 30 years. I think I can figure out the telltale signs of depression without a cut and paste from Google. ;)

Starving yourself to death is hardly a serious medical condition. :rolleyes:

You said you could never forgive your poor old grandpa --who lost his lifetime mate by the way. You didn't lose your lifetime mate. So you have no idea what your grandpa went through. Your grandpa is the one who I was talking about might have been depressed. Depression could have caused him to want to die by any means necessary. Traumatic experience to lose a spouse. The only one looking like a fool is YOU.
 

dingbat

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You said you could never forgive your poor old grandpa --who lost his lifetime mate by the way. You didn't lose your lifetime mate. So you have no idea what your grandpa went through. Your grandpa is the one who I was talking about might have been depressed. Depression could have caused him to want to die by any means necessary. Traumatic experience to lose a spouse. The only one looking like a fool is YOU.
So you?re questioning my judgement and calling me a fool based upon your knowledge of man whom you have never met and has been dead for almost 20 years. :confused:

Perfect. Do your do mind reading and horoscopes as well?:D
 

DayCruiser

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So you’re questioning my judgement and calling me a fool based upon your knowledge of man whom you have never met and has been dead for almost 20 years. :confused:

Perfect. Do your do mind reading and horoscopes as well?:D

That will be $100. Mind reading and horoscopes are extra :D
 

R Socey

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" If dogs don't go to Heaven when they die, when I die I want to go wherever they go "

Will Rogers
 
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