Low end Fishfinders?

BillP

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Anyone here using a Garmin 120, Eagle Cuda 168, Eagle Fishmark 320, Lowrance x47 or x51 in saltwater? If so, got any complaints? I need 2 cheapies for skinny saltwater.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Bill
 

Boatist

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Bill I have not used any of the units you ask about and really need more information about how you will use it.<br /><br />In general 200 khz fish finder need power in salt water with a 20 degree transducer. As an example unit I use is 192 khz and came with a 20 degree transducer. I can see bottom fish out to about 150 feet, deeper than that all I see is bottom even with the sensitiveity turned all the way up. I belive my unit has more power than all the ones your listed. My unit is 3000 watts Peak to Peak or 375 watts RMS. If the units you listed have fewer watts at 200khz then expect less depth that you can see fish at. Do not think you will see fish at the depth they say it will work at. Note that it does not say you will see fish.<br /><br />Example Lowrance X51<br />Depth penetration to 800 feet* (244 m)<br />1500 watts peak-to-peak (188 watts RMS) transmit power. * Actual depth capabilities depend on transducer configuration and installation, bottom composition and water conditions. All sonar units typically read deeper in fresh water than salt water.<br />Since this unit is half the power of my unit and a higher frequency I will bet it will not see fish deeper than 75 feet in normal salt water. If that is all you need then go for it.<br /><br />Now there are thing you can do to help. Example my unit I installed a 8 degree tranducer in place of the 20 degree. With the 8 degree I can see fish out past 400 feet. This is like taking a light and putting a reflector on it to focus the light into a narrow beam. It is the same light but it will shine farther, but it will not light as wide a path or see as big an area on the bottom.<br /><br />Lowrance FAQ<br />At shallow depths (fresh or salt) does it matter if I have a 600 watt or 3,000 watt unit?<br />For most fresh water fishing - in depths under 200 feet - a 600 watt unit will meet most fishermen's needs, but higher power can help show small targets better and eliminate "noise" on the screen. Since saltwater is more dense, a higher output power is recommended for most applications.<br /><br /><br />Garmin Fish Finder 120<br />Power output: 100 watts (RMS), 800 watts (peak to peak)<br /><br />Frequency: 200 kHz<br /><br />Depth: 600 foot max depth*<br />* Depth capacity is dependent on water salinity, bottom type, and other water conditions.<br />This unit is 1/4 the power of my unit or good for about 40 feet.<br /><br />Lowrance X47<br />Depth penetration to 600 feet* (183 m)<br />True 800 watts peak-to-peak transmit power.<br /> * Actual depth capabilities depend on transducer configuration and installation, bottom composition and water conditions. All sonar units typically read deeper in fresh water than salt water.<br />Again about 40 feet.<br /><br />Eagle Cuda 168<br /># Depth capability to 600 ft* (183 m) with 800 watts of peak-to-peak power<br /># High-performance, low-profile 200 kHz Skimmer® transducer.<br />Again about 40 feet.<br /><br />Eagle Fishmark 320<br /># Depth capability to 800 ft* (244 m) with 1500 watts of peak-to-peak power<br /># High-performance, low-profile 200 kHz Skimmer® transducer.<br />About 75 feet.<br /><br />If you want a unit that will work in deep salt water then you need a unit that also had a 50Khz tranducer and 8000 watts peak to peak or 1000 watts RMS. Also nee a higher resolution.
 

JRJ

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

I use a Lorance 320DF and it works fine.
 

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Bill, I just got a Fishmark 320 and I'm totally satisfied. Good resolution, bottom & structure at any speed, plus water temp. Fish arches. Jigging a 2oz slab in 30ft depth, I can see movement of the lure on the chart - one time a fish struck as I watched.<br /><br />It was recommended by a couple guides as the best under $200, is why I chose it. Can't speak to durability, though.<br /><br />jtw
 

ziemann

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Boatist makes some good points- it depends how you are using it. I am using one of the models listed- a Cuda 168. For my use in fresh water it works really well...have dropped it a few times (taking it out of my boat) and it refuses to die. Your mileage may vary...
 

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I think all the units listed are good quality and for fresh water they meet the needs of most. If you take your unit inside at the end of trips so there not in 110 degree sunshine or -30 below every night then I would expect them to last 20 years or more. All my gear has held up well but I take it inside where it not a black unit in the SUN and temperature stays 65 to 80 degrees.<br /><br />My main point was in fresh water units are good for most. They not the highest resoultion or the biggest screens, But SALTWATER is a whole different world. The Eagle Fishmark 320 has good resolution and of the ones listed would be my choice, but with the standard 20 degree transducer do not expect to see bottom fish in 200 feet of saltwater even on the best day.<br /><br />JTexas I agree I would expect your unit to work out to 75 feet of saltwater with the standard 20 degree transducer and much deeper in fresh water. From bill list it would be my choice also.<br /><br />JRJ do you mean Lowrance LMS-320DF If so it a lot diferent than the Eagle Fishmark 320 listed. To start with it has 3000 watts PeP not 1500 so double the power. Second the transducer is 35/12 degree for 50khz/200khz. So the transducer is 12 degrees not 20 for the 200khz frequency. That like my unit in that the cone angle is narrow so power focused on a smaller area. I would expect that unit to see fish to 400 feet in the 200khz mode. The unit also had a 50khz transducer with a 35 degree transducer. The 50khz frequency penetrates saltwater much better than the 200K frequency. In the 50khz mode I expect to see fish out to 600 or 700 feet.
 

JRJ

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Boatist, yes mine is the LMS-320DF. I see I misspelled Lowrance also. BillP said "skinny" saltwater. A foot or two to just how deep is skinny?
 

BillP

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Thanks for the excellent info. I was figuring half of the published depth data for saltwater use but that looks wrong by the posts.<br /><br />I'm looking to see dropoffs and bottom contours in 20' or less. Every now and then maybe 75' but it won't be often. Detailed structure and fish locating isn't necessary but would be nice. Skinny water would be 2' or so where I can't see the bottom but need to know how deep it is. I've used low priced units in the past with good results but not lately. Putting $500 units on these boats seems overkill.
 

Boatist

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Re: Low end Fishfinders?

Bill If you are not looking to see fish then the depth I gave your are way off. I would double what I gave you to just see bottom.
 
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