"Mainstream Media Bias" -- Deserves it's own thread(imho)

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amen rolmops
 

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We could try to annex Mexico and build a fence along their southern border that would only add twenty-four more states. It worked in Germany.<br /><br /> It would be a lot shorter fence and could use local labor. :D
 

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posted on wrong thread sorry
 

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All of you who think the mainstream media is biased, do you include Fox in that?
 

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Originally posted by Art B:<br /> All of you who think the mainstream media is biased, do you include Fox in that?
FOX biased? Absolutely.At least, I think it is. But can we call FOX "mainstream"? Hardly.<br /><br />How many share the FOX format? <br />Do you notice any differences between FOX and any of the alphabet media, as far as what is covered, what is NOT covered, and talk programming they present?<br /><br />Thought so. Now, this should go a long way in explaining FOX's growth compared to CBS' collapse. shouldn't it??
 

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Fox has the highest news rating on TV. Now why does that not make them "mainstream". Arn't you being a bit selective?
 

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Originally posted by Link:<br /> Boomyal<br />You pretty much got it correct IMO<br />Techosnott/txwinner<br />We get it! You hate President Bush<br />Moveon.org
Typical right wing hate speech.<br /><br />When faced with irrefutable facts and positions, resort to hate-speech. Get over it.<br /><br />I’ll admit, I do NOT like bush. I do not hate him, I just do not respect him, approve of his vacation (job) performance, or like the fact that he is president. <br /><br />12footer, I am surprised at the tame nature in general of your mild troll. I am pleased that you have worked hard to keep it tame. After reading the opinions both liberal and conservative, I agree that your perception of the media bias roots firmly in your predisposed opinions. If you are far right leaning, because the media says ANYTHING contrary to bush, it's the evil liberal media, just listen to the pompous arrogant windbag puppet boy rush. If you are highly liberal then because the media doesn't bury him in "proof" that he is evil means they are conservative leaning. However, if you are an intelligent, capable, independent thinking audience member then you can see the relatively neutral bias of the sensationalism media. Just as the pompous arrogant windbag puppet boy rush sensationalizes any non-hard-right agenda as anti-American and praises any redumblican party idea as the best thing ever thought of. It is simply a matter of pandering to your audience. Sensationalism sells. If you're rush, you pander to a certain audience, and if you're left leaning, you kowtow to another audience.<br /><br />As for the whole Clinton lied ordeal, you speak of it as though it is justified, but when a similar investigation is launched against a redumblican, it’s a partisan witchhunt. Clinton's deal went full circle. The current administration is working hard to frustrate the investigations that are currently being conducted. If there is nothing to the allegations, then that will be proved out, but otherwise, the grand jury would not have found evidence to indict. Your political slants are clouding your judgements regarding the judicial system. And while we are rehashing the Clinton lied drama, why was oral cop such a big deal that we as a nation had to spend millions to expose it? I was disappointed and offended by his cheating, but I was equally offended by the redumblicans wasting so much money to expose what should have been between him and Hillary. Did his infidelity affect his presidential performance? NO it did not, at least directly. Did his lying result in the death of anyone? Forget the allegations that could not even be formulated into charges relating to Whitewater. <br />If indeed bush lied about or manipulated intelligence leading up to the Iraqi invasion, then he lied, and tens of thousands of innocent people and thousands of troops died. This is an issue that the bush administration is fighting (for it's life?) to make sure NEVER gets settled. Why is baby bush so scared of his actions relating to the pre-war intelligence? It's time to come clean with America, but I doubt baby bush ever will. Forget what political leaders "knew" for years before. All that matters are the facts that were presented to baby bush that he based his decision on. I will never be convinced that he did not disregard information that did not agree with his position, whether that evidence was great in volume or a single document. That is not to say that he did not act on the intelligence available to him. Just was it accurate and credible, or simply what substantiated what he wanted to do anyway.<br /><br />So lets get over this hate-speech, realize that there is a difference of opinions, the media is an outlet of information presented with however much fluff and inducements required to achieve the greatest business value needed. I personally do not find the mainstream media to be significantly biased one way or the other. I do see bias' in presentation of the "news", some to the right, some to the left, whatever is needed to sell the program. And I see a failing leadership and those who want so desperately to believe that they will lash out at any element of truth that casts a bad light on said leadership.
 

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I have my personal biases, and the most prevailent fuel source is provided by the daily barrage of left-wing mainstream media, plying their wares. The problem is, it's not working en mass this time around.<br /><br />So far, the libs have tried getting Bush from every concievable angle.<br />Even an idiot should get by now, this SINGLE objective of thiers.<br />Let's see.... We had Florida Election that Bush "stole" in 2000.<br />Then, The Bush AWOL National Gaurd story,five cycles of bogus news reports by thier accomplices in the alphabet media, with no new information.<br /><br />Then we got "forged documents" from Bill Burkett news cycle, and obligatory "well, we may have faked the story, but we know he went AWOL" "meet the depressed" opinion shows meant to sway public opinion, even AFTER they got caught...<br /><br />Then they gave us the 9/11 "get bush"commission that ended--up pointing the finger back on their "untouchables".<br />Oh yea! Richard Clark and the Jersey Girls, Brought to you by Ford, on CBS nightly news for about 3 weeks.....<br />Then we got Abu Greib being compared to WWII-era Aushwitz, and "Club G'itmo"..<br /><br />"Americans are justht tho cruel to our prithonerth! War crimeth-war crimeth!!"<br /><br />"Sandy Berger got busted...Let's bury this one, alphabets".<br /><br />Karl Rove "investigation", anyone??<br /><br />The three-ring, Cindy Sheehan ditch vigil! A lovely event! Cindy was to have a "news conference" one particular Monday, and nobody showed-up..So i guess that parade is sort of over, huh? The left can a"allways" drag it out later. :rolleyes: <br />And they have, with a STAND-IN...Priceless stuff that cannot be made-up, even by the crew of Staurday Night Live! :D <br /><br />Then we we were treated to the Katrina coverage-- This Cheney-made by haliburton hurricane and celebrity levy-break!! Oh, the carnage! Oh, the agony Bush caused! Thousands dead,floating down the road...When this blew-up in the left's face, as all the other attacks have done, they just dusted-off Cindy yet again, Drug-out some new indictments, or come-up with a new, equally-absurd "angle"...How about some MORE worthless indictments? hmmmm?<br /><br /><br />So, far, NONE of this silly mud they have thrown-against the wall has stuck, and NONE of it got to their intended target, GWBush! And it's not like he is running for president in 2008. <br />I am particularlly centered of this single-minded effort to get Bush at any cost, as it is indicative of their total strategy. They do not want American defeat...Unless Bush can be held accountable (read: "Bush Lied", "DCheney/oil/Haliburton")<br /><br />This whole thing is whacky, yet dangerous, and it's hazards are not towards thier intended target (Get-Bush "allways"), but innocent people, and soldiers in harm's way. (by encouraging the enemy).<br /><br />I sure would like to know what rewards or spoils victory in thier little war would give them.<br />But thru this chain of attacks, even a moron can tell what motivates the left. Thier main objectiive is not to win the next election, or to offer a better solution to anything ailing our society. Thier objective is single-minded: GET BUSH ! They don't care how, or who is harmed or killed by thier efforts. This war on terrorism could be a defeat, and it's ok by them, because Only thier hopeful end-result matters to them.<br />And the democratic party's brightest are bailing from this idiotic kook-fringe in droves! I say, good riddance, but in the meantime, i wonder how many more will die due to thier self-centered, single-minded goal.<br />And their media alliances are not as transparent as they were in 1969, (thank you, Walter Kronkite).
 

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I think the line is easily demonstrated. Lets look at the time devoted to Cindy Sheehan and the time given to a much higher percentage of the mothers who support the effort. 1000 to 1 minimum. Lets look at real newsworthy stories like buddist monks with a vow of poverty giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to one political party. Manipulating a presidential election by a forein power might, just might be a story. Where was the effort similiar to the efforts put into the non, 30 year old story of GW's national guard service. Lets look at Charlie Treh and the incredible amounts of money brought in from CHINA for the election of a specific candidate. Now I know these stories are complex and difficult to put in a 3 minute segment, but where is the coverage. <br /><br />Have we not opened any schools, restored any power, restored order to any part of Iraq? When was the last piece of posititive coverage our troops got for their ACTIONS? I would think it dates back to the last elections and then most of the media kept referring to some kind of illegitimacy. When you are at war it is ok to point to some successes. It is OK. Might even inspire the troops. Why is it always reported that this mission has been a failure? Why is it that we keep referring to the destabilization of the area when it just couldn't be farther from the truth. Where is the counterbalance at PBS for Bill Moyers? Please tell me how those X's were placed over VP Cheney's face during his last TV appearance. Someone with technical knowhow explain how this could happen by accident please.<br /><br />What would happen if the NRA put out a pamphet that stated your parents are cowards and communists if they don't own guns and handed them to children? What do you suppose the slant on that story would be. Then PETA puts out a book on why your parents are murderers. If this was covered like they cover the NRA, PETA support would most likely dwindle. But if we only report on PETA's activities during more popular outings then you have an agenda. Or in passing to as a footnote. Failure to point out Hillary's non-believable swing to the right, is curious. Bush has put forth two of the best even handed (unlike say ginsburg has been) candidates for the supreme court. Both men are shoe in's but what is the press covering exclusively? Abortion rights? Irrelavant in the big picture but clearly a liberal concern.<br /><br />The last survey I saw had 85% of journalists as democrats. We have seen in the past few years how "professional" journalist's have evolved into. To say they set their political bias at the door is just incomprehendable. Now here comes the biggest non-story by a person who is completely unbelievable, Joe Wilson. Leslie Stahl comes out and says all of the media knows she works for the CIA but they all run like they have no clue. The story is initiated with a lie (Plame got him the job) and it's conclusions are then completely wrongfully reported. (Sadam was looking for uranium he just didn't find it at that time according to Wilson's friends who would be retarded to report otherwise as they sell unranium.) Unlike the Clinton supporters I am all for roasting Scooter Libby on a spit if he lied. I could care less about the circumstances. Funny how some can't say that about clinton. And anyone who thinks he did it to save his family are lying to themselves. He had done this on numerous occasions and contiunues to do so today. BTW when was the last time you saw Mr. and Mrs. Clinton together?<br /><br />Where was the in-depth coverage of Kerry's non service? Why did the LA Times have to remove the editorial page editor with not another editor but the editor in chief? No liberal bias?<br /><br />The mass media includes newspapers, magazines, music, tv, movies, radio. 90% are liberal, and being able to point to a fox news or a Rush Limbaugh is rather funny. They represent the minority of broadcasters and are gaining the most marketshare. Based on the number of times I have seen people point to Bush's popularity rating to support their positions, perhaps they should look at the listenership ratings for the minority of programming presented by Right leaning or balanced broadcasters before making their decisions. By the way, whats up with the West Wing, and now the new Hillary conduit, commander in chief. No clearing of the road there???? Please point to the last movie or tv show that painted a republican in a positive light.. Please help me understand how the percentages could be so uneven. Why would the NY Times knowingly allow one of their reporters to submit false stories, and then publish them and keep him on staff? <br /><br /><br />November 24, 2005 <br />Release A051124f<br /><br />Iraqi homes benefit from new water and sewer system<br /><br />MOSUL, Iraq – A water supply and sewer distribution system completed in November will benefit 4,280 Iraqi homes in Baqubah.<br /><br />Construction on the new facility began in May 2005 and employed 250 Iraqi construction workers including pipe fitters, plumbers, electricians, masons, carpenters, plasterers, truck drivers and backhoe operators.<br /><br />The old system provided potable water to only a limited number of homes and needed upgrades to provide a safe water supply to the community. The system could not keep abreast of growth. The new state-of-the-art system serves a larger section of the community and eliminates the need to connect to the storm water system, and stops the discharge of pollution, and health hazards into the river.<br /><br />This community project is another concrete example of how Iraq is working towards reconstruction, autonomy, and prosperity. <br /><br /><br />- 30 -<br /><br /><br />FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT MULTINATIONAL BRIGADE-NORTHWEST PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER, LT. COL. ANDRE HANCE AT ANDRE.HANCE@MNBNW.IRAQ.ARMY.MIL <mailto:ANDRE.HANCE@MNBNW.IRAQ.ARMY.MIL> .<br /><br /><br />It is clear the bias, and if you think otherwise you should be open to keeping a tally of stories, (not just political) that are pushing left agendas. It truely is eye opening.
 

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12footer said Thier main objectiive is not to win the next election, or to offer a better solution to anything ailing our society. GET BUSH ! I believe that I heard this same refrain when Clinton was in office coming from the other side only it now seems that the party’s are reversed. During Clintons two terms he had every right wing talk show accusing him of everything including having people killed. Now the shoe is on the other foot so listen to them squeal.
 

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yep if its on FOX or Rush its abo****e gods gospel and as all the facts have been checked the listener has no need to check further<br /> as far as showing the positive Fox and rush have a golden oppertunity to show how we have doubled the electrical prodution from prewar figgues, oh wait, thats is still a dream. we maybe they could show how we have rebuilt the water system to at least pre 03 standards, dang it there it is again, seems the contractors have failed again but have spent the money, well anyway we can show the sewage tratment facitities we have rebuilt, darn it thats still offline as well.<br /> maybe they can just show the one or two schools they have been showing for the past year, YEA we found it.<br /> on next weeks edition they can interview the CEO's of some of the contracting companies so the CEO's can show us the video clip of the 20 billion or so worth of electrical,water and sewage infastructure the US taxpayer has paid for, so far.<br /> sounds like a good positive spin for Rush and Fox. I cant wait to see it.
 

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Rodbolt,<br /><br />My post wasn't about percieved vendor issues. It was about the progress made by our TROOPS. Lets look at Lybia that has been silenced, Iran afraid to do anything, women voting in the middle east, unearthing of mass graves, a murderer and rapist and torturer on trial, the fact there are more schools now than before. I thought removing a mass murder would be enough for any peaceloving person. Afganistan's terrorists looking for new homes or a good lawyer (isn't that sad). No additional terrorist attacks on American soil. The re-enlistment rate is way up, the soldiers are positive about their mission. Where are these stories. If you think that subcontractors are ripping off the government, that too is a story. But you have addressed something, but where is the balance coverage? Where are the stories about the strong economy, low unemployment, creation of new jobs? What is going on where there is nothing worth reporting but phantom connections to Haliburton and terrorist rights? Where are the majority of gold star mothers coverage? What do you think would have been the spin if George HW Bush went to Bosnia and said that the war was a lost cause, like Clinton did in Dubai within 25 miles of our troops on foreign soil then 48hrs later did a 180. There is a story here. If Bush did that he would be strung up in the media.<br /><br />Is it the contention that there are no positive role models on the right? Where is the movie of the week about one of the most incredible americans alive, William F. Buckley? Why is it Mel Gibson couldn't find any studio to produce the 2nd most watched movie last year and had to make it on his own? It is clear that if you can't see the omissions and the slant, you are clearly partaking of the Kool-aid. <br /><br />Remember, the war is about the soldiers, and we never hear from them. What some subcontractor does is a sideline to the real story of the effort and bravery and committment of the men and women fighting and their leaders is what you should be focused on. You want to count wasted dollars, see the welfare program. It is nice that you can point to rush and fox, but that would be less than 1% of the mainstream press. Do they walk on water? Nope. The president has shown some serious shortcomings not only in his policies, but in his administration. But the nightly drumbeat of doom and gloom had to have caught your attention. Don't you think that Rush's existance is in response to a vaccum of news addressing issues of concern to millions? I don't follow rush or subscribe to his service, but when I hear him, he makes sense and is entertaining.
 

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> yep if its on FOX or Rush its abo****e gods gospel and as all the facts have been checked the listener has no need to check further<br /> as far as showing the positive Fox and rush have a golden oppertunity to show how we have doubled the electrical prodution from prewar figgues, oh wait, thats is still a dream.
<br />Now i know you know Rush and FOX are not considered "mainstream media". I also know you know that Rush isn't even a journalist.<br /><br />What's the deal, Rodbolt? Are you trying defend or deny the exisitence of a biased mainstream media by comparing the right wing bias of FOX and Rush to the left wing alphabet news sourses??
 

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I don't know, when I watch the news any more, they aren't talking about anything except the earthquakes in China, that mob scene in Wal-MArt over the $400 laptops, the Macy's Day float tragedy, and the X-Box 360. I see little about anything that has to do with the war or any of it. Just quick little blurbs now and then. They don't want to distract us from what we should be concentrating on: Holiday spending.<br /><br />I don't know which way that is biased towards, except maybe those who are making the money.
 

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If the media really does have a left leaning bias why was it a Republican president that cancelled the Fairness Doctrine back in 1987.<br />You would think that the Republicans would embrace the Fairness Doctrine to ward off the evil liberal media bias. <br />I don't think it was just a coincidence that around the time the Fairness Doctrine was cancelled was around the time that right wing talk radio really took off and it was just a few short years afterwards that the republicans took over congress.<br /><br />I have heard that something like 85% of the Washington news reporters voted for Clinton, but that doesn't necessarily make them liberal or Democrats for that matter. Clinton was just a moderate that had crossover appeal.<br /><br />I believe the reason why so many reporters voted for Clinton was because they felt Clinton was the best man for the job. <br />Put yourself in the shoes of these reporters. The live and breath politics and current events. A lot of them know the issues better than some of the politician they're covering. And when you need to be as informed on the issues as they are it is only natural they voted the way they did.<br /><br />BTW. Even though the reporters may have overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. Their bosses and corporate owners are by and large conservative. A lot of investigative reporters have said that they've had stories spiked or important details taken out by their editors. And when asked why they say they feel their editors are concerned about not getting they corporate owners and advertisers angry.
 

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pointer<br /> thats the problem, even the far right spin doctors are failing to get out what positive stuff that the troops are doing, the syrian thing is a non issue, they are not cooperating, the Iran thing? they are not fearful at all and the russians are aiding them in a nuclear power program that I hope is not a weapons program. time will tell. india is also not friendly and could care less what we do as long as they keep getting dollars and they are a nuke weapons country. pakistan is the same way. they are helping the US some but not much and then only when its to their benifit. they all know that sooner or later the west will tire and leave, have for centuries, and they will go back to fighting amongst themselves.<br /> myself I would love to see some stories on a long term unemployment rate, a long term of decent wage job creations, maybe even doing something with a bloated welfare system and doing something with the current SS department or maybe at least some positive spin on our decaying and mostly non functional verterans administration. the current admin has been in power for 6 years now and cannot blame any other administrations for any current problems.<br /> <br /> All I ask is show me the sites and TV and radio channels to hear all this.
 

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I've had NO TV since 1989. And guess what? I'm not missing a thing! The Clinton years? ... Went right past me. I never saw monica's stained dress, or the impeachment attempts, the LA riots, the wars in Bosnia, Chechnya, Iraq (either one), the Somalia fiasco ( I did check out the film last year), the crazed bank robber shootout in CA, the OJ carchase, or trial, the second space shuttle explosion ( i did see the first one), the Tsunami in indonesia (saw some pix on the web) or the NO floods, or any of it. And neither of my children, now 9 and 12, have had to grow up with a TV in the house.<br /><br />I think the whole of mainstream media is biased towards it's own bottom line and nothing more. If anything, from what little I get from radio and print media, the "media" (and Congress too) have given George II pretty much a free pass. And even at that, the American people seem to be getting pretty sick of this administration and the war.
 

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come on rodbolt,<br /><br />lets just go to the fox news site as of the time of this posting.<br /><br />Stories: Retailers happy, NY Times finds cloud anyways. Brit Hume.<br /><br />Try clicking on John Gibsons insight into the defeatest left, and their shallow attacks and their affects.<br /><br />click on this one. Tells how we are winning in the information war within the war. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176996,00.html <br /><br />How about the Wall Street Journal. Just today Democrat Joe Leiberman stated after visiting Iraq. He quoted IRAQI POLLS that indicate things are going well and 2/3rds of the people think they are better off now than under Sadam and 85% think they will be better off next year. Positive stuff. You can also reference it on Rush Limbaugh's site. And on his radio program.<br /><br />How about the fact that order for durable goods was way up.<br /><br />How about the fact that gas today cost me $2.04/gallon.<br /><br />Fox just reported that Zerqoui's family actually took out a full page ad in a Jordanian paper disowning him. He is the enemy, and this hurts him.<br /><br /><br />You answered your own question regarding Iran. They have been forced to spend great amounts of capital for increased defence systems and had to make a deal with the devil, Russia and China. And of course it is a weapons program, Short of having them show up at the UN glowing, why would they have to aquire the Soviet-era Kh-55 cruise missiles—designed to carry a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead 1,860 miles, virtually undetectable by radar; a recent satellite deal with the Russians would supply digital maps for improved accuracy. June 2004 the UN finds new traces of enriched uranium that surpass levels necessary for peaceful energy production. The government has rounded up 15,000 suicide bombers in case of invasion. Exactly how do you advertise for someone to fill that position? They are fearful and they are setting Isreal up for responsibility for any Iranian actions. Add in the fact they are surrounded litterly by NATO countries. Yea, they got a pantload. They are playing a bluff right now. They know they are next and the next generation of kids are giving the government fits wanting freedom.<br /><br /><br />
Iran afraid to do anything, women voting in the middle east, unearthing of mass graves, a murderer and rapist and torturer on trial, the fact there are more schools now than before. I thought removing a mass murder would be enough for any peaceloving person. Afganistan's terrorists looking for new homes or a good lawyer (isn't that sad). No additional terrorist attacks on American soil. The re-enlistment rate is way up, the soldiers are positive about their mission. Where are these stories. If you think that subcontractors are ripping off the government, that too is a story. But you have addressed something, but where is the balance coverage? Where are the stories about the strong economy, low unemployment, creation of new jobs? What is going on where there is nothing worth reporting but phantom connections to Haliburton and terrorist rights? Where are the majority of gold star mothers coverage? What do you think would have been the spin if George HW Bush went to Bosnia and said that the war was a lost cause, like Clinton did in Dubai within 25 miles of our troops on foreign soil then 48hrs later did a 180. There is a story here. If Bush did that he would be strung up in the media.<br />
I said nothing about syria, india, pakistan, so I don't know quite why your post was addressed to me. I also don't know what this is:<br /><br />
a long term of decent wage job creations
The most current unemployment rate is:<br /><br />
U.S. Unemployment Rate<br />The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that nonfarm employment increased by 56,000 in October, 2005. The October unemployment rate dropped to 5.0 percent, down 0.1 percent from September.
Considering that 4% was historically considered transient unemploment, it looks GREAT to me. We just had a hurricane that killed thousands, (democratic estimate, sorry couldn't resist :D ) comparing this to some socialist countries like say Germany, 11%, France, 12%.<br /><br />Home sales up 13% last month even with 6% interest rates. Which really is incredibly low interest.<br /><br />Where is the good news rodbolt, there is much to report yet most mainstream media focuses on some percieved failure. Don't see a bias?<br /><br />Here is a good story, why is abortion a lithum test to be a supreme court judge for the democrats. Tunnel vision?<br /><br />The vet administration is a mess, and if you are looking for some bad news, there you go. But this has been the case for decades. And no that doesn't justify or make it acceptable.
 

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Pointer sez:<br /><br />"Here is a good story, why is abortion a lithum test to be a supreme court judge for the democrats. Tunnel vision?"<br /><br />Good question. Even though I have been labelled here as one of the "libs", I'm not a single issue voter, let alone one this one. Yes, I favor legal abortion, but it doesn't trump everything. <br /><br />So an equally fair question is:<br /><br />"why is being strongly anti-abortion a litmus test for court nominees for repubs ? "<br /><br />Why do they do this silly little dance that they do, trying to pick a nominee that is strongly anti-Roe, but at the same time, has no paper trail that might make their views known to the public? And why are we supposed to believe that just because someone is nominated by the prez, that they are automatically qualified and would never let their own bias interfere with the process? These people don't walk on water, you know... And didn't the repubs just have a field day with Clinton's nominees? Why are they whining now that it's their turn?<br /><br />And why, oh why were we supposed to take seriously the comical and tragic nomination of Harriet Miers to the supreme court? She was supposed to be the best they could find? Can you imagine the howls of protest had Clinton nominated his own attorney, with no relevant experience whatsoever, to the Supreme Court?! Wow! Talk radio would STILL be going on about that one! Hell, they still go on about Clinton anyway, almost 5 years after he left office...
 

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Re: "Mainstream Media Bias" -- Deserves it's own thread(imho)

Woodrat,<br /><br />You are speculating on the reasons for particular nominations. The man is impecably qualified for the position. For the record, the president can nominate anyone he wants. But did you hear the attack dog tactics and politics of personal destruction from the republicans when the likes of the ACLU's Ginsburg was nominated. I would rather Clinton have nominated his personal attorney. This is a uniquely democratic tactic.<br /><br />She was approved by a vote of 98-2? But she could never be construed as radical, right? If she were any further left she would be 10 miles west of Hawaii. :p <br /><br />But Bill is gone and really not newsworthy anymore, but he feeds the mob with inflamitory statements on foreign soil. Dubai. Feeding the misinformation and negative press. I would simply wish he would just go quietly into the night. But that isn't likely. I would think with his charisma that he could make a substantial positive impact somewhere.
 
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