Man vs. Boat (season 1).

[U.S.S. Too Tall]

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Sweet!! Looking good! keep up the work! Looks like your about to get to the real fun parts!!!!

 

[sqbtr]

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He's got a stringer drive, me thinks you should consult manual and determing the correct removal procedure or post the removal Q over on the OMC forum.

 

[oops!]

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I don't know oops, I had to foresight to buy an outboard powered trashed out boat so my maiden voyage went more like this:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/dad_driving_dana.jpg

(yes they are sitting on bag chairs )

now........thats just cheatin.......geez....you ob tinny guys...

 

[oops!]

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 1).

patrick......i just saw the 9 min vid of the inspection.....


first off ...let me say.....i cant believe you got the carpet out in one piece !......did you get lucky !
pulling the carpet is one of the hardest things to do......and it is step one. the darn carpet is so hard to get out.....when i am doing a full gut.... i done even pull it any more....i just cut it with the rest of the deck. the side walls are usually easy to pull...but the main areas are usually ripped to shreds....
just to let you know......pulling a well glued carpet is so hard....that you want to say "f this whole project after 15 mins of work.

ok.....it really looks good in there....i mean really good.
one of the things we tend to do is think we have to do a full stringer gut....you may not have to..

take core samples of the foam...(right to the bottom of the foam at the lowest part...and look for wet foam...in the foam.....a core sample is taken by a 1 onch or so pvc pipe...you kinda cut two "teeth" into it.....and twist it into the foam....all the way to the fibreglass hull.....then just pull the tube out.....and push out the core in the tube.
if its wet mush.....it has to come out.....
but only take out as much as is wet....foam is kinda pricy.....so save what you can. even big chunks of dry good foam can be thrown back in and foamed around.....the expanding two part foam will find every nook and crevice.....and just fill the voids.

the other thing you have to do is take core samples of the stringers....drill into them and look at the wood shavings.....dark and wet means.....out they come.
dry wood means have a beer. there is no in-between.

as far as the transom set up.....with a merc.....you need 2 ins of solid transom including the fibreglass hull.
in your case....there is little to remove.....so that means your pain and time factor just dropped by a full 10 hours. you dont need to pull the cap to get in there....there is lots of room..

i think is is going to be far easier than most restorations. the boat looks in good condition.

check your pm box.

 

[Hydra-sport_Road-kill]

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 1).

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He's got a stringer drive, me thinks you should consult manual and determing the correct removal procedure or post the removal Q over on the OMC forum.

Me thinks that's a fine idea too. Or you could date the stringer drive casually and propose marriage at some suitable time in the future. If you're not getting married to the stringer. Dis-assembly is pretty straightforward keeping in mind you might want to ebay it or part it out to the other poor soles and recover your $300. Use the hammer sparingly

 

[Pmccraney]

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first off ...let me say.....i cant believe you got the carpet out in one piece !......did you get lucky !ok.....it really looks good in there....i mean really good.

in your case....there is little to remove.....so that means your pain and time factor just dropped by a full 10 hours. you dont need to pull the cap to get in there....there is lots of room..

I am by no means counting my chickens, but since I was going to have beer tonight anyway, this seems like a good enough report to maybe have 2?

Okay guys: No one has responded to the 2nd poll question - need some votes on this:

Do I reconfigure the interior with a rear bench seat and sundeck, or just stick with the existing config (two loungers and two jump seats)???????

This is project by committee, your votes count.... You guys have already determined by popular vote to keep the bow lights and do a merc conversation. What say you?

 

[jasoutside]

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your votes count.... What say you?

Yah, get rid of the glasser and go with aluminum!

Wait, what were we voting on again?



Uh oh. I better get otta here!



(sorry mccraney, just being a punk)

 

[ben-man]

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Just my $.02, but if you're not keeping the ski locker, you could buy a poly gas tank on ebay an put that in the floor where the locker was. That would free up a lot of storage space under the bow for the tubes/ropes/life jackets etc and give you better access to the docking lights.

My short first-boat story:

Bought a 10-year-old Crestliner V-180 off ebay for $4K - in Wabash Indiana (I live in Winnipeg, Canada) - "It's not that far" I told my wife. "Look, Google maps shows it as only being an inch and a half from here". Well, turns out that inch and a half was a full 2-day drive - each way. When my wife and I finally got to Wabash, I was shocked by how little the pictures on ebay actually showed.
The boat looked like it was ready for the scrap heap - no seats, trashed carpet and vinyl, rotten floor, cracked rotten trailer tires, and hull paint so scratched up, you couldn't tell what color the boat was (Aluminum hull though, so re-painting wasn't such a daunting thought).
I felt ill.
I just dragged my family 1600 miles across the midwest to pay $4k for a boat that should be at the bottom of a lake somewhere.
What the hell did I just do?
My wife and I went to get something to eat while the seller drew up the paperwork.
I wanted to start driving and never go back.
But my wife, god bless her soul, convinced me that everything would be fine.
She told me to take the boat home, work on it over the winter and that it would make a great family fish and ski boat.
I never loved that woman more than I did that day.
You know what? She was right.
I spent better part of the next 10 months doing all the stuff your doing - minus the engine/outdrive issues, mine was an outboard.
It turned out great - even after hitting a rock on our first outing and bending the prop shaft ($1100 fix)
Never regretted a minute of it.
Enjoy the journey.

 

[U.S.S. Too Tall]

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 1).

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 1).

I am by no means counting my chickens, but since I was going to have beer tonight anyway, this seems like a good enough report to maybe have 2?

Okay guys: No one has responded to the 2nd poll question - need some votes on this:

Do I reconfigure the interior with a rear bench seat and sundeck, or just stick with the existing config (two loungers and two jump seats)???????

This is project by committee, your votes count.... You guys have already determined by popular vote to keep the bow lights and do a merc conversation. What say you?

I know that I am having a beer when I get home, I think that your discovery deserves 2 or more! I kinda like the jump seats on my boat. I would keep them, but if I restore my boat, it would stay close to 'stock', with small improvements here and there. I think that if you go with the sundeck and bench you would lose space in the boat, walking room I mean. But, thats just my opinion....

 

[U.S.S. Too Tall]

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I just dragged my family 1600 miles across the midwest to pay $4k for a boat that should be at the bottom of a lake somewhere.
What the hell did I just do?

But my wife, god bless her soul, convinced me that everything would be fine.
She told me to take the boat home, work on it over the winter and that it would make a great family fish and ski boat.

You LUCKY LUCKY man!!! My wife would have buried me in the boat!!!!!

 

[windshield_time]

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I would go with a sundeck and a bench seat in the back. Captains chairs in the front. I did the opposite and am regretting it.

 

[Hydra-sport_Road-kill]

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I say keep it all in the stock/factory configuration as well, if you're taking a poll, that is. But if you start off changing too much, who knows where you might end up. You might decide to cut the whole back-end off just to make it longer or some such craziness Truth is, you got to live with this decision, so go for what feels right to you. 'Cause we're just the cheering section . . . and there are some coaches here too. You're still in the demolition stage for a while. Plenty of time to decide.

 

[Big Island Lifer]

You could make a half bench with a pass through step to the transom (it would keep people from stepping on the seat everytime they go to or come from the swimplatform). A captain chair for the driver and either a lounge or another captains chair for the passenger seat. I always hated sitting backwards.

It's your boat and it's a blank slate.
Do what works for you and your family. How many seats do you need?




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[Struc]

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Okay guys: No one has responded to the 2nd poll question - need some votes on this:

Do I reconfigure the interior with a rear bench seat and sundeck, or just stick with the existing config (two loungers and two jump seats)???????

This is project by committee, your votes count.... You guys have already determined by popular vote to keep the bow lights and do a merc conversation. What say you?

That to me is a totally personal question. Every other person is going to have the opposite answer. I can see the benefit of both, but personally like the space that the jump seats give you for bringing more people on the boat (think guests). On the other hand, if you only ever plan on bringing your family, and they are fine with the space of the bench seat, and like to lay out in the sun, then that might be the best option for you.

Again, while everyone here is usually ready to give an opinion, nobody will give you a hard time for what you want to do to YOUR boat. We're just glad you're restoring it and having fun doing it, and are sharing it with the rest of us.

Do what you want to do with the interior seating arrangement. We'll give you advice on the rebuilding process.

 

[Pmccraney]

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Again, while everyone here is usually ready to give an opinion, nobody will give you a hard time for what you want to do to YOUR boat. We're just glad you're restoring it and having fun doing it, and are sharing it with the rest of us.

Thanks Guys; Unfortunately, the folks on "Youtube" are a little more opinionated.... One of the bad parts about going "public" with your resto vids is that people want to tell you how to parent your children in a disrespectful way.... I have already "owned" the fact on this thread that my son should have had a pfd on in the trial run.... Aside from being called stupid, I was also informed to hate myself and my boat because my son is for sure going to drown.... (wow, ease up people)....

 

[Teamster]

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Tiller!!!!,.....................lol,...

 

[Hydra-sport_Road-kill]

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I've performed my own social study of those who leave comments on YouTube videos. The results indicate a startling 98% failed to matriculate. Those that did scored a mean of 980 on their SAT. Turn a blind eye to those Neanderthals on the tube . . . except Frisco, and Jasoutside they'er OK. Really ??? You called him on spelling and grammar? I bet he's sorry

 

[oops!]

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patrick im trying to catch up here......the posts are coming fast and furious.

forget the jerks on you tube.......you have lots of time to read here and make YOUR OWN LAWS IN YOUR OWN BOAT.
JB for instance will not allow booze on his boat.....i, on the other hand..rarely leave with out it. but ill bet my boat laws are tougher than his in some cases.
....just dont let batman do the "titanic thing" while you are at 45 mph on the water.....and your good !


as far as the interior......a doghouse and two jumpers in the back are old style and a lot harder to construct than a sunpad and a bench. you will loose 14 inches off the legnth of the passenger area adding a bench.......but you will gain that back by loosing the back to backs.

the sun pad is far easier to work with, instead of a doghouse.
for instance....when you have to get in the motor cage on the water or on the dock....the doghouse is just in the way, you have to move it. and in your case....it will most likely be made from plywood and upholstery.......this is really heavy to move and then where do you put it?.....answer....on the deck in the bow....that means you lift 50 lbs over the windsheild..........
been there done that....no thanks....illl take the sun pad on hinges.

as far as the ski locker.....i would keep it.....under deck stowage is free.....and stowage is at a premium even over 50 feet.
i built my searay so that every inch is usable. under the bench. under the deck. even the top of the gunwhales is used for fishing rod storage..and actually the only place that was considered waisted was in the forcastle (in the very bow where your gas tank is) its too hard to crawl up there and grab life jackets when the ship is going down.

by the time you are ready for the interior modifications.....you will see mine....glean what you can.

but you are still a long way from those decisions........and the way best to you will come when you are building the boat.......usually when you are on the step before you need to make a decision.....the answer will just come to you.

 

[ingalp01]

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Hey Patrick... I know we've PM'ed a little, but I'm glad I finally got a chance to read through your post. I loved the story, both parts and I watched the vids when you attached them to the PM. My first suggestion would be for you to purchase one of these manuals:

http://www.iboats.com/Stern-Drive-R...7577702--**********.110748866--view_id.216506

Available right here on the i-boats website, and for me anyways, worth their weight in gold. As far as the mechanicals, schematics, wiring, etcetera, the manual was invaluable to me. A lot of the information is general, i.e. it won't be exactly like what you are looking at, but it is definitely easy to follow and will make things make sense.

Good luck and I look forward to seeing your project develop.

 

[Pmccraney]

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[Edited to remove my stupid, rambling tangent]