manual question?

[tashasdaddy]

ok, rebuilding 4.3 lxgen+ installing push rods and rocker assembly. Merc#18 say to torque to 20lb. no adjustment or sequence. Seloc says to use a sequence and tighten 1 turn after the lash is out. the trouble is, that Seloc has a miss print that says to adjust #3 intake in both sequences, and nothing about #3 exhaust. HELP

 

[Don S]

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I replied to your email, like I have always said, avoid those aftermarket manuals. Too much wrong information.

 

[Bondo]

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Why not just do it the way Don just Explained it to you yesterday....... <br /><br />My 2nd Choice would be By the Mercruiser method.....<br />

the trouble is, that Seloc has a miss print that says to adjust #3 intake in both sequences, and nothing about #3 exhaust. HELP

No Surprizes There........

 

[Haut Medoc]

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In # 1 position.....Adjust intake 1,2,3...Exhaust #'s 1,5,6<br />#4 position intake #'s 4,5,6 Exhaust #'s 2,3,4<br />1 turn down from zero lash (point when push rod will not spin.....From front 1,3,5 EI,EI,IE<br />2,4,6 EI,IE,IE....Hope this helps....JK<br />If Don all ready explained it to you, I would think that there should be no problem, he's usually very clear....The #'s above should be correct though....

 

[Don S]

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JK, that may work great on some older V6's but if his has stepped rocker studs that the rocker pivot torques down against, then it doesn't get adjusted that way. <br />I suspect his does, that is why I ask him for a picture of his rocker studs.

 

[Don S]

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Got his email with the picture. His has the stepped stud. Just torque the nut, no adjustment.<br /><br />

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Thanks Don, didn't know that.....GM borrowing Ford ideas?

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Since it really a'int highjacking....The lift is determined by the length of the push rods? & if you mixed them up, it would be bad, correct?....JK

 

[tashasdaddy]

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thanks Don, will do.

 

[Don S]

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JK<br />All the pushrods are the same. The lifters can do it all. NOW, if the lifters are messed up due to all the water.............

 

[tashasdaddy]

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tightened them down. no compression all push rod are where they came from except #5 which are new. if i do them the Seloc way the nuts work loose.

 

[Don S]

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No compression on any of the cylinders? Or just the same 2 you had the other day.<br />Could be bad lifters from the water problem.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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no compression anywhere. it was running when i set it up by the Seloc method, but had the pop and # 3 exhaust wasn't adjusted because seloc said to adjust #3 intake in both steps, which i did not catch that till this AM. but with the seloc method i can't keep the nuts on. every thing moves like its suppose to. can turn over with a 3/8 drive wrenth on the HB bolt. thanks, i'm just frustrated. time for a cold one.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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It will turn easily because you have no compression.....JK

 

[Don S]

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You're probably going to have to remove the lifters, take them apart, clean all that thick milky oil/water mixture out of them and put them back together to make them work. They are all pumped up and aren't adjusting like the should.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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thanks don, thats just what i was thinking. o hell. it could be worse.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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just read up on the lifter removal and cleaning appear straight forward. anything to look out for. recommended cleaning solution. diesel? i've got it. i don't know if weather will work tomorrow or tueday.

 

[Don S]

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Diesel would work fine, just remember to keep things spotless. It takes almost nothing to prevent a lifter from working properly. Do ONE at a time and don't mix the parts.<br />After you finish cleaning them, put them back in and without the plugs in crank the engine and build up oil pressure and make sure the all adjust properly before you put the intake back on.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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PURRRRRS LIKE A KITTEN. lifter were so gummed up it took me a while to figure out how they came apart. couldn't have done it with out compressed air, 3 good diesel baths a lotta air, clean environment, and a lot of getting in/out the boat. merc dealer wants $650 to do the bellows and impellor. couple more changes of oil i hope it will be good. THANKS to everyone how helped and good luck to everyone trying this. it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be. do what they say here, especially Don S. special thanks.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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we got mine fixed, but the question was never answered as to when in the Seloc sequence do you do # 3 exhaust, in the first seguence and the second sequence? i want to correct my manual for the future.