Mercruiser 3.0 No Spark issues

aidanmurphy

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Agree with Scott try both

Had one on 2 different boats. Both the very ridge stingray model. The foil will use some hp due to increased drag. Having a 454 was no issue. On a 3L with no extra it will make things worse

Agree with Scott try both

Had one on 2 different boats. Both the very ridge stingray model. The foil will use some hp due to increased drag. Having a 454 was no issue. On a 3L with no extra it will make things worse
Yea, I am going to try to take it off. I would prefer to have a little more cruising speed vs planing out quicker. I don't pull tubes or skis, just cruiser around and anchor mainly. Thanks, will report back any findings
 

achris

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Does anyone run Hydrofoils on their boat? The boat came with a stingray brand hydrofoil from the PO. I am wondering if this is really necessary on a 19 foot bowrider or if I should pull it off
Most outboards and virtually all stern drives are NOT set up to use hydrofoils properly. What they don't tell you on the box or in the installation instructions is that in order to work as originally designed, any engine with a hydrofoil must be raised a minimum of 25mm above the normal 'X' dimension.

The way hydrofoils are designed to work is that they produce lift while in the water, getting the boat on plane at a lower speed, but once on the plane the last thing you need is a device producing more and more stern lift as you're getting faster. If you've ever experienced 'bow steering', you'll know how frightening that is at high speed. So with the drive/outboard up a few centimetres, the hydrofoil actually comes out of the water once it's done it's job (and thus no longer produces lift)... So, where's the hook? Outboards are dead easy to raise. Support engine, remove 4 nuts and bolts, lift engine, refit nuts and bolts, job done. Stern drives, not so easy. Remove drive, engine and transom plates. Glass up the hole (or weld in a new ali sheet). Cut new hole, refit transom plates, engine and drive...

Chris.....
 

aidanmurphy

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Most outboards and virtually all stern drives are NOT set up to use hydrofoils properly. What they don't tell you on the box or in the installation instructions is that in order to work as originally designed, any engine with a hydrofoil must be raised a minimum of 25mm above the normal 'X' dimension.

The way hydrofoils are designed to work is that they produce lift while in the water, getting the boat on plane at a lower speed, but once on the plane the last thing you need is a device producing more and more stern lift as you're getting faster. If you've ever experienced 'bow steering', you'll know how frightening that is at high speed. So with the drive/outboard up a few centimetres, the hydrofoil actually comes out of the water once it's done it's job (and thus no longer produces lift)... So, where's the hook? Outboards are dead easy to raise. Support engine, remove 4 nuts and bolts, lift engine, refit nuts and bolts, job done. Stern drives, not so easy. Remove drive, engine and transom plates. Glass up the hole (or weld in a new ali sheet). Cut new hole, refit transom plates, engine and drive...

Chris.....
Good insight Chris thanks. Going to pull it off and see how it handles
 

aidanmurphy

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Was going to pull off my whale tale and noticed a small area of a spider crack in the gel coat. The area is slightly raised. Looks like something is pushing out from the inside (rotten transom related?) or it had an impact. The rest of the rear transom is completely free from any cracking. Should I do anything about those cracks? Also bounced and pulled on the OD to test for flex and took a vid, couldn't see any but maybe not a valid test as I was just bouncing the trailer around...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Rg9pVqqK2YxjZp8

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Scott06

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given that you suspect a rotten transom and you have been flex testing it by jumping up and down i suspect you have your answer… i would be drill testing the transom if you haven’t. Hard to tell from the keyboard how bad it is
 

nola mike

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Was going to pull off my whale tale and noticed a small area of a spider crack in the gel coat. The area is slightly raised. Looks like something is pushing out from the inside (rotten transom related?) or it had an impact. The rest of the rear transom is completely free from any cracking. Should I do anything about those cracks? Also bounced and pulled on the OD to test for flex and took a vid, couldn't see any but maybe not a valid test as I was just bouncing the trailer around...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Rg9pVqqK2YxjZp8

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This is a slow motion train wreck. Please drill the transom.
 

aidanmurphy

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I did drill into the transom today, the two holes closest to the transom plate (2-3 inches away) had reddish tinted flakes and did not feel damp to the touch. The hole I drilled further away (6ish inches) had some dark brown/black, damp wood come out.
 
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