Mercury 150 Ring Gap .040 (STD) on honed cylinder within tolerance - is this OK.

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Hi AMD!<br /><br />Why are we talking about an inline, unless I don't understand the nomenclature. I have an outboard MERC500, 4 cylinder.<br /><br />Alex
 

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Ya.. it's a 4 cylinder INLINE. (as opposed to a V-4)<br /><br />-W
 

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Thanks Clams. Still got a lot to learn . <br />I can't see what is highlighted in yellow as AMD indicates, consequently I can't see what he is talking about.<br />AMD show me the LIGHT!!!!!!<br />Thanks<br /><br />Alex
 

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O wherefore art thou AMD? <br /><br />Alex
 

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Alex,<br />The ring compressor is simply an installation aid. I do not own one, so I cannot take a picture or describe in detail how they are used. Nothing fancy, simply there to squeeze the rings prior to installing the pistons in the cylinders. If you do not have a factory service manual, I highly recommend purchasing one.<br /><br />Here's another pic of a compressor from a different view:<br /><br />The two on the left are offset. The one on the right is straight.<br /><br />
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<br /><br />Hope that helps.
 

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I gather they are oversized rings and the ends fit into a couple small holes in the piston groove?<br />Without the compressors the rings would keep the cylinder from sliding into the bore?<br />Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle allthe way :eek: <br /><br />Alex
 

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AMD you wrote that you would get a "wrist pin clip installation tool"<br />Please explain to the uninitiated<br /><br />Alex
 

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AMD is snowmobiling in the Adirondacks? Christmas is over lets get to work:) ;) <br /><br />Alex
 

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Rodbolt or Clams Canino can any of you Guys answer my previous questions to AMD. <br />I'm sure AMD has gone South this time or he's hibernating :cool: <br /><br />Alex
 

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Crem,<br /><br />The ring compressors are removed once you get the rings into the barrel. You will see the light when you try to re-assemble the engine. With the rings inplace on the piston you will be unable to slide it into the sleeve(cylinderbore) because the rings will be expanded. Unless you have 2 friends and yourself stand around the engine to compress the rings as you slide them into the barrels (sleeves, cylinder bores) you will need ring compressors to do that. Do NOT force the piston into the barrel in the hope that the rings will compress on the small chamfers provided, they will simply break, they are very brittle.<br /><br />2 other things you will need to watch.<br />1) The other guys can correct me on this. I'm simply speaking from generic 2 stroke experience. The piston only goes in one way. There's usually an arrow that has to point to the exhaust side. Failing this will result in ring breakage on the first crank.<br /><br />2) The 2 rings, though similar, are made of 2 different materials. The one is usually shiny, and the other black. I can't remeber which on goes in the top groove, and which one goes in the bottom groove.<br /><br />And lastly, you're right. The pins in the ring grooves are where the open ends of the ring go. Once the ring is compressed in the barrel, those pins prevent the ring from turning. and sticking one leg in a port and breaking.<br /><br />Come to think of it, I'm not even sure we're talking about a 2 stroke here. Are we? I'll delete this post if not.<br /><br />OMG NO! Never knock a piston into the barrel with anything! To check the fit, slide the piston in without rings. It's a precise slide fit. Then remove the piston, attach it to the conrod again and resume assembly.
 

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Thanks a million for that additional information.<br />Sounds like you have been around engines. This is exactly the type imnformation that we novices need. Blow by blow!!!!<br />I have a MERC500 4 cylinder 1973-4 and it's a two stroker. CREM backwards is MERC. Crem sounds a little too much on the sensitive side!!!!!!:) :) <br /><br />Alex
 

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Well, from what I've seen you must definitaly get yourself a Seloc and operators and maintenance manual for your engine. They are really blow-by-blow and with the pictures they are an invaluable tool!
 

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Crem,<br /><br />I've been out of town for a few weeks, and couldn't log in to post a response to your previous question.<br /><br />
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<br /><br />The small rings shown above fit at each end of the wrist pin. Getting them into the piston groove without the proper tool is a pain in the arse. I don't have a picture of the tool, but it is bascially a cylinder with a special end profile to push the ring into the groove without damaging the ring or the piston.
 
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