Mercury Force VS. Chrysler Force???

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Hello all, I just bought a VIP Skiboat with a Mercury 150 Force outboard. I just found out that Mercury and Chrysler have both produced this engine under the Force Name. I was also told the Chrysler version tends to burn up pistons and has a poor reputation. What are the differences between them and how reliable is my Mercury Force 150 model??? I just checked compression and it has 150+ PSI across the board. Any info much appreciated!
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: Mercury Force VS. Chrysler Force???

Mercury/Force v/s Chrysler Force? The same motor with Mercury starting system:packs coils etc.Chrysler came first then a name change when US Marine(bayliner) took them over.Then Mercury bought them and started using their technology on them.
They will last as long as you take care of them.Use a good grade of oil. TCW-3 by Mercury/Johnson/Force/Yamaha.Cheap oils will burn but the extra money is worth it in the long run.Every once in a while use seafoam or power-tune.To remove carbon. Keep the carbs adjusted.Keep the oil in the lower clean.I have had a pair of 85hp Force for 20yr and they have thousands of hours.They are taken care of and still run GREAT!!!!!.Jerry
 

roscoe

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Re: Mercury Force VS. Chrysler Force???

The carbs really need to be setup and sync'd by someone who knows what they are doing.
5 cylinders, 3 carbs, balance is crucial or that single carb/cylinder will burn up.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Mercury Force VS. Chrysler Force???

First, there were no five cylinder Chrysler 150 engines ever made. They did make a 4 cylinder 150. If you see one of them for a reasonable price, jump on it: they are not too common.

There is no such thing as a Chrysler/Force! That is a misnomer. --A common mistake that a lot of people make because the Chrysler engines were almost completely unchanged when the name was changed. Chrysler was forced (no pun intended) to divest its marine division and sold it to AMF Brunswick, (U.S. Marine) which changed the name to Force. THEY made a 5 cylinder 150. Although it used the same bore/stroke and cylinder liner/porting It was a completely new block--similar to Chrysler design. Later, Mercury bought out Brunswick and continued the Force name for a couple of years more.

It came in two versions: early models were 3.3125 bore, some with 1 5/16 venturi WB carbs and later models were 3.375 bore with the bigger 1 5/8 venturi TC carbs. So, you would expect slightly better performance from later Mercury manufactured Force engines.

As to whether earlier or later model 5 cylinder engines were prone to melting pistons: No outboard can survive a lean run. Lean running from any cause will very rapidly result in melted pistons--in any engine --any brand. As will overheating. I can't tell you how many melted pistons I have replaced in Johnson/Rude and Merc/Mariner. The "Tower of Power" in line 6 cylinder Mercs were notorious for melting the top piston because the water flow to the top cylinder was marginal.
 
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