Mixed alarm problems

det398

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I have a 1989 Mercury 135HP V6, oil injected. I have read multiple post on the forum and gotten some very useful trouble shooting, now I have a problem that seems to be a combination of everyone's alarm problems so I was wandering if anyone has encountered this one, or have any advice. I first had the oil injection alarm, the intermittant beep. I first put the volt meter on the leads and rotated the engine manually to verify the correct voltage range. When i did that the high spot was in range but the low was 0 the manual say's it should be 1-6V. I did the continuity check on the tank level switch which was good. And the volatage to the alarm module itself was good. So I determined that the problem was the magnetic pickup, the oil flow sensor. I replaced it and I was still having intermittant oil alarms. The alarm is not in all the time and appears to only come in during throttle changes, and almost never in when I am up on plane at about 2/3 throttle or more. But never the less I decided to premix in a temporary tank and capacity check the pump. Capacity check was satisfactory. It is pumping the correct amount of oil at different metering barrell positions corrisponding to throttle positions. So now the alarm comes in here and there but not as often as before. But I do get the overheat (solid tone) when I first start the motor. It is my understanding that this the alarm module does a self check at startup and gives the solid tone but the alarm does not clear. I have a temperature gage and I know that it works because I have previously had an overheat condition when I first bought the boat a couple of months ago. I replaced the impeller and the thermostats and blew air through the pasages to verify clear. Well the solid tone alarm stays in for a prolonged period of time after engine starts and then clears. Throttle or speed of the boat does not affect it at all. I have removed the engine cowl after coming down to idle when the alarm comes in and the heads are not excessivly hot to touch. The pee hole discharge is pretty warm, but I don't know how warm that is really supposed to be but the temperature gage on the consule is reading about 130. Sometimes if I turn the ignition off and then back on again it clears. I don't typically get any alarms since this thing has been going solid on start and not clearing until I shut the engine down and restart it again. Does this prolonged alarm on start mean that the Alarm Module is bad? Is there anything else that could be going on? I know almost everyone's advice is get rid of the oil injection but now I don't seem to have that problem anymore or if I do I can't tell because my module is possibly messed up?<br /><br />Any info will be greatly appreciated? I am looking for a way to test the module to see if it is bad. Module are the most expensive part of the system. I can live without oil injection if I had to but I would rather not live without an overheat warning? I like to have a little redundancy in my indications so I can verify a problem.<br /><br />Thanks in advance for any help
 

wilde1j

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

Dave, have you checked the oil pump driven gear for any evidence of plastic shards from the drive gear? Early failure warning is often intermitant oil alarms when the gear is starting to fail, since it rarely totally fails in one event. To check, remove oil pump and bushing, the pull the driven gear.
 

KCLOST

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

I don't think that the overheat switch is in any correlation with the alarm module?<br /><br />Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken...
 

wilde1j

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

Temp alarm is driven by the alarm module. All the V6 carb'd wiring diagrams I have show the temp sw feeding into the alarm module.
 

yellowlab

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

i dont know what it is about this system that sucks so bad, but I have had problem after problem with the warning system. In the last year i have had all the electrical components on the motor, new oil pump and the crappy plastic gear that drives the oil injection, and 3 new warning modules put in, and i just broke the 4th. the latest thing that it is doing is giving me an oil warning that comes on when it drops down out of high idle after warming up. oil system is working fine. no plastic shards in the pump. the only way to get the OIL warning to go off is disconnect the OVERHEAT warning wire that is coming off the box. All the wiring is installed properly and verified by two mechanics, and we dont have a clue how that wire is setting off the oil warning. My mechanic told me that since they started making these boxes in Mexico he has seen a significant increase in failures with these boxes. 4 in one year for me. its cheaper for the company to just keep sending us new ones than it is for them to do a little quality control. So just another thing for you to check
 

det398

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

Yellowlab, are the new boxes that you are getting under waranty when they fault and if so who are you ordering them from, at least I know they will be familiar with the situation and explaining the problem won't be so difficult if it happens to malfunction again. <br /><br />Thanks<br />Dave
 

yellowlab

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Re: Mixed alarm problems

they are under warrenty and I dont know where they are coming from because we are getting them shipped in from the factory. They have to test the old ones to make sure it is a defect before sending out the replacement.
 
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