Mud Dauber's !!!

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I have been plagued for years with mud daubers getting into my boat and building nests. any of you folks out there have any remedies for this? thanks .............
 

JAZZedBW

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Mud gobbers, are those the wasp like things? Those are bad. Normally where you are located is the main thing. If you are by lots of trees or anything of that nature, probably they will build nests. I hate those things. Where we are, we are normally away from everything so its not that bad. <br /><br />Seagulls are a problem! Good luck. I would say to get some bee killer or something like that and just spray the heck out of the boat and where small places where they like to go. Thanks<br /><br />JAZZ ;)
 

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I wish those bees would buzz off! There must be a repellent of some kind available... spray a little on the boat like JAZZ said. I did a search of bee repellent and there was a bunch of products. Hopefully that'll work. I hate bees... as a matter of fact, I'm willing to give up honey...
 

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Mud daubers are not bees. They are wasps that prey mainly on spiders. <br /><br />They will build nests in almost any cavity and if they can't find one they will build on the surface.<br /><br />Their mud will not adhere to an oily surface. Mother Nature gave us WD-40 to deal with mud daubers, but if you live in Texas you will probably need several gallons. :D
 

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I use a can of spray engine starter (ether) for bee hives, freezes the whole lot before they can nail me and they stay dead. However, never use this near an open flame or in doors.
 

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Thanks for the input folks, actually, i have never been stung by them, i just hate the mess they make with the mud, every where you look you find those doggone mud nests...oh well guess it's just something you have to put up with. maybe i should find a forum for entomologists. i think thats right is'nt it? you know. bug science.
 

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Actually, I've always heard mud daubers don't sting. Like Flashback said, I've never been stung by them. Kinda like white headed bumblee bees. I've not had them in the boat but they build nests everywhere else. All I ever do is knock 'em down and hose of residue.
 

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Being an exterminator, I can tell you all you need to know. Mud Daubers are solitary wasps. As has already been stated, they sting and paralyze spiders (or other species of insect or aracnid, depending on the individual species of solitary wasp), Lay an egg or eggs on the still living prey, encase it in mud, and fly away, never to return. Sometimes they will clump several egg/prey combos together. The egg hatches, and feeds on the still-living host. They don't sting unless physically handled, they have no nest to protect.<br /><br />On a side note, last year was a bad yellowjacket season, and I did a lot of boat jobs at marinas where there were nests in boats. I had a few that I had to tarp and gas for an hour to kill all the nests. They love to get in boats, when I bought "Skanky Beast", there was no less than 25 big fat nests throughout. I spent half the day gassing the little jerks. So if you are out fishing and wonder why there are yellowjackets or paper wasps (look similar to yellowjackets, but with more rounded definition between body segments), then look no farther than the undersides of the deck.
 

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Re: Mud Dauber's !!!

hey Hotbyte, thanks for the info, but I think we are talking about 2 different things here, the mud daubers I know, are not white headed, as a matter of fact,JB is familiar with the kind I have. they look like wasps, and if you break open their nest before the eggs hatch, you will find dead spiders inside the nest. anyway, apparently you must have a different kind of dauber.. What do yours look like?........
 

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Hey Jason, you are the man..... is there anything i can leave laying around in the cabin that will discourage the daubers from coming in? I guess im lucky i don.t have the yellow jackets, there a lot more aggressive...............
 

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Mud gobbers, spiders, may flies... all of them you have to live with, but I still hate them :D <br /><br />Spiders really are more of a pain though. Spider crap all over the boat, it looks bad...etc. But May flies are bad. They usually come in summer for about a week. They don't bite, but are just annoying. But overall, anything that flies I don't like. (Seagulls, Bees, even Planes!)<br /><br />JAZZ ;)
 

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Flashback, unfortunately, other than slicking down every surface to prevent adheision, or treating every surface with pesticide, there is little that can be done. I have the same problem with my customers' houses, and in the end the chemical treatment helps, but they still end up coming in under the radar and building a few mud clumps. In the end, you are probably going to have to continue your struggle by knocking them down when they appear. Good luck, and be glad you don't get Bald Faced Hornet nests in your boat (needed extensive counseling after THAT nightmare).....
 

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I had the same problem 2 years ago. Got rid of the pests no problem this past season. Remove all the old nests and residue. Install traps. The traps are constructed from 2 litre plastic soda bottle but a peice of plastic pipe through the bottle with a wide v notch cut in it. The notch needs to be close to the center of the bottle. Put some suger water in the botttom of the bottle something for them to drink and place some turkey lunch meat for protein in the v notch being carful not to entirly block the v notch. The wasps go in for lunch and a drink but are not smart enought to find their way back out. It really works. You have to break the chain they return year after year.
 

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Sorry for confusing post Flashback...I meant that like white headed bumblebees, mud daubers don't sting. But, it sounds like from JasonJ they can sting just normally don't.
 

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Mud Dauber are a nuisance, for sure. No sitings but I did just replace an electric motor due to those rascals. <br /><br />One remedy I heard of is to keep around a bucket of dirt mixed heavily with Ortho insecticide. Keep it moist all the time. The daubers will use the tainted moist dirt and destroy themselves over a short time. Keep the cats away.
 

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JasonJ, what type are the bees that love soda? You find a load of them near any garbages can that has soda cans in it. They build nests in the ground, loose dirt or even the side of my house. I hate those things.
 

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Scoop, sounds like your talking about yellow jackets. At Boy Scout camp long ago, they loved getting on the top of soda cans. Well, one climbed down into one boys can and he didn't know it. He took a big gulp of Coke and started hollering pretty good.
 

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ajp, I like that idea!! If i poison the mud they use, then i should be able to kill them before they build those mud huts.!!!! what kind of poison? diasinon? clorodane? this is good........
 

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Hotbyte, They could be. I have never studied bee identification. I do know, I mowed over their nests twice, I have picked up parts of their nests twice with a tractor bucket, and I had a heck of a time killing the nest they made between the two layers of siding on my house. It took three cans to finally kill them. The traps work good for them though.
 

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The poisoned mud concept is interesting, and they will certainly take advantage of the mud, but it won't eliminate the problem completely, as they can use other sources of mud. They have a good amount of range, you would have to eliminate every competing source of mud within a half mile or more. Not feasible. Traps are irrelevant to something that is seeking living prey.<br /><br />Yellowjackets are attracted to meat and sweets, that is why they are around garbage, hummingbird feeders, dry dog food, that sort of thing. Traps can make yellowjacket problems worse, as they attract more yellowjackets. The traps need to be hung away from the area. Also, traps only work on yellowjackets, they do not work on paper wasps, which look a lot like yellowjackets. Same coloring, but a more obvious definition between body segments. Paper wasps are the ones that build those open honeycomb nests up in the eaves. Yellowjackets build closed nests in walls, under stumps, in hay, in holes in the ground, etc. Bald-faced hornets build those huge nasty gray closed nests in trees and under eaves. Don't mistake whiteheaded bumblebees for bald-faced hornets. Bald-faced hornets defend their nest aggressivly, and have a nasty painful sting with a lot of venom. Lastly, when dealing with stinging insects, it is important to know that the more you get stung, the more you develop an alergy, NOT a tolerance.
 
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