My Vaseline Opinion.

[26aftcab454]

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The problem is though, my boat has about as much gloss as your Lawn!! Think the Poli Glo will help?

Chad- those gt-150s are some of the sweetest,sharpest,sporty-est boats even though its 31years old---pretty that baby up and post some photos!

BTW I am going to vaseline up the wellcraft this weekend.
The results were good- very deep color and a good shine. I had alot of water spotting marks and they are gone now. I actually used the generic store brand. did whole 26ft boat with maybe 3oz. took 45min to apply & wipe off exccess another 45min-I let it "soak" 24hrs.
Overall- I say it was well worth the $ , time & effort.

 

[Bifflefan]

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Wow, Looks really nice Gary.
I just got off their site, where i ordered some. gonna give it a shot. It cant hurt.
Im not a big fan of the vasiline idea, as when i was a teen my cousins washed my car and then decided to armor-all, everything, including the paint. everything in the world stuck to it after that and i couldnt get it off eather. I ended up using some comercial degreaser that took most of the paint off too.
Then it was clean i tell ya.

 

[skargo]

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Armorall does not equal Vaseline

 

[madurodave]

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Looks nice after polishing with Vaseline, but I wouldn't do it. The gel coat will absorb some Vaseline, and then there can be a problem with wax lasting any time at all after a Vaseline shine. Some folks rub auto trans oil on it too. Hides the oxidation, but like you say, the real solution is a cut, polish and wax.

BTW, where are the pin stripes in the before photo?

I did this sat and sun! What a HUGE DIFFERENCE!! Took all the little scuffs out and looks WONDERFUL!

 

[Gary H NC]

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After a few trips to the lake the vaseline will wash off.
The Poli-Glow is a hard type clear solution that fills the pores of the faded gelcoat. The trick to it is apply really thin coats with no runs.It dries in a few minutes and you keep adding coats.It took mine about 5 coats and it looked great.
I was skeptic that it would not last but so far i am very pleased.

Now all i have to do is wash with a mild car wash soap and it cleans up nice.

 

[skargo]

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The Vaseline is not washing off on my boat, it absorbed into the gel, nothing to wash off. I've had it in the water many times since using it and it looks great.

For $2, it beats pretty much anything else.

 

[ondarvr]

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The problem is though, my boat has about as much gloss as your Lawn!! Think the Poli Glo will help?

I've never seen Poli Glo used on dead metal flake. You need something to build up the surface above all the flake so it can be made smooth again.


You're dealing with something totally different than the others here, so don't put any Vaseline on it.

When the surface is rough and down to the flake you run into a few problems
1. The flake may fade in some areas more than others.
2. When sanded it can change the look and amount of flake.
3. If you don't sand it the new clear may not bond well.

All of these can make it look blotchy and not give the desired results.

Most rattle can clear can be removed with acetone, so wipe down a small area and see what happens.

You can use water to see if the surface looks somewhat uniform and you can more rattle can clear in a small area to see if using clear will make it look like you want it to. No need to spend a bunch of money having someone spray it with a high end clear only to find out it still looks terrible.

 

[ondarvr]

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Safety Kleen made a product very much like Vaseline to use after repairs, it was about the same consistency and soaked in the same way. It would hide most defects (dull or lightly scratched areas) with just the wipe of a rag, we used it at shows when something would get scratched or scuffed during setup.

It also made the color look deeper and richer.
WD-40 did about the same thing, but it only lasts a very short time.

 

[MikDee]

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Hey Gary! You're boat looks Great! It's held up for 2 seasons as well, I can't knock it!

 

[78 GT-150]

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Chad- those gt-150s are some of the sweetest,sharpest,sporty-est boats even though its 31years old---pretty that baby up and post some photos!

BTW I am going to vaseline up the wellcraft this weekend.

Thanks, I can't wait until it gorgeous! Even if it requires a trip to the paint booth!

Chad..

 

[78 GT-150]

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I've never seen Poli Glo used on dead metal flake. You need something to build up the surface above all the flake so it can be made smooth again.


You're dealing with something totally different than the others here, so don't put any Vaseline on it.

When the surface is rough and down to the flake you run into a few problems
1. The flake may fade in some areas more than others.
2. When sanded it can change the look and amount of flake.
3. If you don't sand it the new clear may not bond well.

All of these can make it look blotchy and not give the desired results.

Most rattle can clear can be removed with acetone, so wipe down a small area and see what happens.

You can use water to see if the surface looks somewhat uniform and you can more rattle can clear in a small area to see if using clear will make it look like you want it to. No need to spend a bunch of money having someone spray it with a high end clear only to find out it still looks terrible.

Thanks for the info! I didn't think it was going to be as easy as rubbing some Vaseline on the 'flake and turning it into a new finish... But I sure was hoping!

I am going out to get some nice pics of it today and start my own thread, so I'm not hijacking this one anymore!

Thanks,
Chad..

 

[Gary H NC]

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Hey Gary! You're boat looks Great! It's held up for 2 seasons as well, I can't knock it!

Thanks! Yea,i was in a hurry to get it looking good so i thought the Poli-Glow would last the first season...its on its third summer now and i still have enough to do it again if it starts fading. It did a nice job filling the pores of the gelcoat.

 

[skargo]

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Just got done polishing over top of my vas job with the PTFE Starbright stuff. Very easy to use BTW.
I also used hull cleaner on my lower hull and it's white again! I didn't realize how yellow it was.
To top it off I used the teka 2 part stuff on my swim platform, came out nice!

 

[marine4003]

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I've never seen Poli Glo used on dead metal flake. You need something to build up the surface above all the flake so it can be made smooth again.


You're dealing with something totally different than the others here, so don't put any Vaseline on it.

When the surface is rough and down to the flake you run into a few problems
1. The flake may fade in some areas more than others.
2. When sanded it can change the look and amount of flake.
3. If you don't sand it the new clear may not bond well.

All of these can make it look blotchy and not give the desired results.

Most rattle can clear can be removed with acetone, so wipe down a small area and see what happens.

You can use water to see if the surface looks somewhat uniform and you can more rattle can clear in a small area to see if using clear will make it look like you want it to. No need to spend a bunch of money having someone spray it with a high end clear only to find out it still looks terrible.

I second this...Flake is paint,so to speak..gelcoat is a different compound, by itself metal flake has no shine or gloss, its a flat finish due to the flake.what gives flake its shine is clearcoat...there's no magic elixir to fix worn off clear, dont screw up the finish even more, i know there's alot of well intentioned folks offering there opinion's, when in doubt ask an EXPERT.Go to your local bodyshop and ask there opinion.

 

[78 GT-150]

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I second this...Flake is paint,so to speak..gelcoat is a different compound, by itself metal flake has no shine or gloss, its a flat finish due to the flake.what gives flake its shine is clearcoat...there's no magic elixir to fix worn off clear, dont screw up the finish even more, i know there's alot of well intentioned folks offering there opinion's, when in doubt ask an EXPERT.Go to your local bodyshop and ask there opinion.

I think you guys are right, all I can do is take it to a bodyshop and hope they can help!

Thanks!

 

[sv fisherman]

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I would imagine it will give any future painter nightmares. This stuff is for selling crap to a sucker, not for caring for your boat.

 

[skargo]

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I would imagine it will give any future painter nightmares. This stuff is for selling crap to a sucker, not for caring for your boat.

I spent years running a bodyshop, they do this thing called prep, and it needs to be done on everything, especially since people use silicone based products on their vehicles.

If it would give a painter fits, I would look for another painter fast.

 

[sickwilly]

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If you want to see what Vaseline did for my kneeboard, check out this thread in the waterskiing section. You all inspired me to give it a shot. I am pretty darn satisfied.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=340459

 

[howlnmad]

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You guys have me all torn on which way I'm going to go with my old bayliner but the vaseline is in the lead. Worse thing is I'll have to prep it and paint it.

 

[marine4003]

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You guys have me all torn on which way I'm going to go with my old bayliner but the Vaseline is in the lead. Worse thing is I'll have to prep it and paint it.

Before you do anything...ask a pro at your local body shop, Think about it..How long have boats been using gel coat.???? and how long has Vaseline been around ???? 25 years at least. Now, ask your self...Gee , if Vaseline is the end all for boat finishes,then why haven't ANY boat manufacturers endorsed it? why done PROFESSIONAL boat details use it? Why doesn't Vaseline corporation have it as a boat finish enhancer?? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REMOVE OXIDATION!!! when you wipe it off,theres no film being removed as there is when you rub your finger across it, its why it takes Rubbing Compound to remove dried gel coat, So ,Yes,I'll concede it does make the finish look good..but then so will cooking oil. But your doing nothing to properly maintain the gel coat, if it did...the above endorsements would be shouted from the roof tops by Vaseline and the boat manufacturers. Do it right, or do it your way,it doesn't matter to me, but understand one thing..theres alot of different opinions offered here, get an outside one..it wont cost you anything to ask. And you possibly will spend less in the long run.