Navy bootcamp ?

PDS

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My nephew is entering the Navy soon(bootcamp) and I was wondering if any of you folks know of any of your reletives, or yourselves that have completed Navy bootcamp and how difficult it is lately. Bottom line is how much of a ***** is it today. I hope the best for him(My bootcamp was in '83 for Marine Corps. not a good camparisom) Thanks, P.D.S.
 

RetNav

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Hello PDS<br />I completed boot camp a long time ago, 1959, and stayed in the navy for 22 years. Have had some cousins do it lately and some say its hard and some say its not. Depends on the individual and how they respond to the different environment they will be totally surrounded with. Most of them agree that its not really that bad, just different. All said the same thing, If you do what you are told you will be fine. Tell your nephew good luck and remember, he volunteered.
 

lakeman1999

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I completed U.S. Navy boot camp at Great Lakes Naval Training Station in April of 1953, it was 13 weeks, and it was tough ( it made men of a lot of us skinny punk kids of the day). Buuuutt!!! It is something that every male in the country should go through upon graduation of high school, and we would have a lot better country, and a much better society than we have today. <br />As for how tough it was, "A FEMALE NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE IT IN THOSE DAYS". And they have no business aboard ship today. We have a weak military today (on the part of manpower), we only are tough today,because of superior technology, and hardware, If we still had the old training, dicipline, leadership, and mentle attitude, compulsory service, draft (at age 18) and only male participants, there would be no need to be in Iraq today, as the terrorist would be cringing in fear of us. :) :)
 

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UH OH :eek: <br /><br />I can see it coming now and I'm hiding. :D
 

gonfishn

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Went through Navy bootcamp in 68...I grew up quick in the six weeks of grooming shall i say. After corp school I was sent to the Fleet Marine bootcamp for my training as a combat medic..I must say the grunts sure took care of me during Nam and vice versus. They made it tough to help you survive in combat situations..<br /><br />Must disagree with you Lakeman on the Women. Many Nurses were on the front lines in the Mash units in Nam.<br />They Bleed red to..Many lost their lives trying to do a job most men couldn't..I salute them for having the guts to do this thankless but important triage...
 

lakeman1999

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Must disagree with you Lakeman on the Women.
Hello gone fishin, You can disagree with me all you want, but evidently you did not have it as rough in boot camp in 1968, as our 13 weeks of boot camp from the 50's. I am not putting down women, for what they are good at, but they would not have survived the boot camp that I went through (possibly the young males of today would not), and they (women) have no business on a fighting ship, or on the front lines. Jessica Lynch, was "NOT" a hero, she will co-write a book, there will be a movie, she will get rich, and all it is doing is denigrating the real heros, past and present. Civil rights is the worst thing that ever happened to this country, because of the way it was done. Instead of working to bring women, and minorities up to their potential, society in all facets were destroyed, because instead of bringing the ones being helped "UP TO THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL" they brought "BY FORCE" the rest of society down to their level. This cannot be argued against, as all you have to do is watch TV, a movie, read the paper and you can see the leveal that society has sunken too, ("sorta reminds you of the ghettoss of old" :D :D ).
 

lakeman1999

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PS, did you say six weeks of boot camp?? H*ll, you were not in the navy, you went to boy scout camp. You cannot make a soldier, or sailor in six weeks. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 

eurolarva

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Lakeman you are way out of line. First of all navy boot camp is for wimps. If you found that hard maybe you should try army boot camp. If you barely made the navy one you would have been crying to go home after the first week. We had two people die in our company during basic. While you were learning to tie knots we were running 10 miles with full packs and 25 lb flak vests on in the middle of summer.<br /><br />Gonfishn must have learned a lot in his six weeks considering he managed to live 2 tours in Nam. What is your claim to fame.
 

gonfishn

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Will try and keep this at your level Lakeman..after boot camp I went through 13 weeks of medical corp school then was sent to FMF for six more weeks of marine boot camp for combat training...I did 18 months in Nam in the bush with the First marine recon and later flew medivacs on the hueys pulling the grunts out of harms way..<br /><br />Must of been hard on you being on a ship out of harms way while the real ones were getting all shot to h... How many purple hearts have you got?<br />This boy scout still carries the shrapnel I aquired during my time..Can't believe a fellow veteran would put another down because he does not fit your description of how brave one is according to what branch you were in....
 

lakeman1999

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Gone fishin, I aplogise, I did not mean to put you down, I did not have a problem with 13 weeks of boot camp, as I was rated 4th in a group of 100 men (not women). I will still say from now till hell freezes over, tha women have no place in a fighting unit. :D :D
 

gonfishn

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Ps...Lumpman its Gonfishn not gone fishing..One correction I flew on the hueys and sat on my hemet until it was my turn...
 

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PDS , Depending on which training facility your nephew attends and what time of year it is will dictate how miserable a time he may or may not have.I attended Navy boot at NTC San Diego.Went in November and got out in January.There was no shortage of green goobers on the grinder as I think we all had a cold for the duration.As I recall there was lots of marching,clothes folding,cleaning details,classes,some pool swimming,and an occassional "marching party." When I attended if you couldn't swim two laps of the pool either hand over hand or dog paddling you were placed in a "non swim" company and given back of the chow line priveledges and wore white tennis shoes instead of boondockers. ;) <br /><br />PS,Oh ....and lots of shots. :D The bicillin was a favorite.
 

gonfishn

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Thanks Lakeman it was a tough time for all of us no matter what year or who you were with..
 

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Just have him watch Full Metal Jacket. That's the way I remember it. I went through Army Boot at Fort Knox in 1985. The only difference from the movie was they are more reluctant to hit you today, although one of my Drills did pull a guy from the top bunk right into his vertical locker (we had vertical lockers). <br /><br />You also get to run in sneakers a lot (on roads) to avoid shin splints. Still boots in the woods though. You also get to wear sweats a lot for PT (PT, PT, good for you, good for me, we like it, we love it, we want more of it.... ahhhh) Funny how that stuff stays with you!!!<br /><br />It was one of the hardest things mentally and physically I have ever done, that's for sure. But, when I was done I was a lean, mean, fighting machine :D We had 2 people crack up, one of them on the rifle range with his M16 (range officer almost shot him the head with his sidearm) and the other was in a shower at 2am close to the end. I had fire guard. I heard the shower and went into the latrine and found the guy naked except for one sock, talking in gibirish with a glazed look.... Called the MPs and the came and took him away to the looney bin :D <br /><br />I also remember about 2 weeks in they give you an out. The Captain comes by and says if you were lied to, etc by your recruiter you could ask to leave. Had two guys try but the DS talked them out of it.<br /><br />Ok sorry for the reminising, but this one is kinda funny. Our Sr DS was hispanic. I am pretty good at impersonations and he was easy. So one morning I prentended to be him at like 4am and scared everyone out of bed. They then told the other DSs how good I did him and they made me do it at an company assembly right in front of him and the Captain...<br /><br />Afer that he was getting ignored a lot becuase everybody just assumed it was me... :D He didn't like that too much.
 

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Each year our family go along to the big ANZAC day parade, there's less and less of them each year. I used to drink with a lot of them at one time in my younger days and they were all equals, that was the big thing I always remember about them. It didn't matter if they'd been through WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, or any other arena of war they all had a conjoined chartharsis which was the strength of them all. They shared the loss of many and carried their heads high to have been the ones who came back, but they never permitted breaking in the ranks of any service to argue worth of army, air force, or navy.<br />Women in the forces are saluted as easily as the men and we lost our share of women through the years. There's many a mother who would have rather been there herself than loose her son that way!<br />To make a critisisim of women in war is, I feel a bit late by todays standards. Hell if a womens battalian had marched through Paris following the skirmish there and I'd been in the population, I'd certainly have waved the flag with vigor for them.<br />PDS, I hope your nephew enjoys the navy and finds everything he's looking for. He'll come through it a stronger and more rounded man than he is at present. The skills he'll learn with remain with him throughout his days and he'll proudly tell his children and grandchildren many stories.<br />Ross
 

12Footer

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"Class of '71" here. As I recall, it was brutal, but the skinny teenager that went in, came out a man, and for that, I'm allways greatfull. We never had females at sea back then, And I can only imagagine what it must be like to have a female bunkmate on an ordinance carrier!<br />I have to agree with Lakeman over the "coeds at sea" issue. As far as having a weeker fighting force, I doubt they have infiltrated true combat roles,in anything else but appearances. However,Jessica Lynch didn't even need a true combatant role to become a pow. What did they do to her? Our government does not want to tell us, and for good reason. She could be the toughest marine infantryman in country, and still be submitted to tortures that her male counterpart is not.<br />Women have a place in today's military, but not on my ship, and not in my APC.
 

ob

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Hey 12Footer,What was your ships homeport and fleet duty?We may have rode through some of the same typhoons.I got out of boot in Jan. of 71 and was stationed aboard the USS Beaufort.Homeport Pearl Harbor.3 west Pacs and two trips to Haiphong.
 

ratltrap

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PDS-I hope the best for your nephew.<br /><br />To the rest of you I would like to say-<br /> <br /> Thank you for your service to our country!!<br /><br />Wish I could have been accepted(denied entrance due to medical history).<br /><br />2 guys from college went in Marines-Said after our Spring Training(Football-We all thought the coach was ex-military)Boot Camp wasn't to bad physically.<br /><br />If they(any branch) would let me I'd sign up today.
 

12Footer

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No doubt, OB, we rode the same caps then!
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<br />ASHTABULA was in West Pac and our cargo was usually bunker oil and frozen food to the SEVENTH Fleet units on Yankee Station. ASHTABULA's home was Long Beach, CA, but from what I understood, she was re-ported at Pearl in 1975 (but don't know for sure).<br />She was an old, slow, cow that wallowed like an overloaded baylner, but she NEVER broke down at sea durring my tour...Which is saying something for a ship built durring WWII.<br />Were you with the SEVENTH when your ship recovered the Blackbird? (no need to tell me if it is still clkassified (not that you would), but just curious).
 
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