need help choosing deer rifle

rodbolt

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me I use a vivitar to hunt with now, so far I have had no issues with the law, made some incredible memories and have yet to have to track a wounded one nor hump it out when done.<br /> the thrill of critter killing is gone and I dont like the meat anyway,dont eat fish either :) , so I kinda just quit hunting. I still enjoy shooting though. but its imperative you learn to shoot whichever gun you decide to buy. I mean absolutly. gun control MEANS hitting what and where ya aim at. to practice breathing and shooting posture a .22 is cheap. but you will have to practice with the actual weapon you will hunt with to learn how NOT to anticipate the recoil.once you learn the habit of the flinch its very hard to break. thats why proper mounting,breathing and holding the weapon is imperative. if not it will smack you and then the flinch sets in. some cartridge/rifle combos have a nastier bite than others.
 

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I totally agree with rodbolt. Don't even think about hunting until you become a good shot. While you are becoming a good shot by practicing target shooting with a 22 you can be reading gun magazines and books about guns.<br /> <br /> Caliber = the diameter of the bullet.<br /> ..example .257 = 25 cal<br />.............30/06 = 30 cal<br />.............45/70 = 45 cal and so on for the most part.<br /><br /><br /> Bolt action= to load or eject a bullet you have to manually maneuver the bolt lever. (very accurate guns)<br /> Pump action= to load and eject you simply slide the fore stock.<br /> Semi-auto= the bullet will load and eject with each pull of the trigger.<br /> Lever action= to load and eject you swing down the lever (like in the westerns on TV)<br /> Single shot= just like the name implies, you put the bullet in with your fingers and you only get one shot.(also very accurate). <br /> Bullets......<br /> Generally a heavy slow bullet for short woodsy shots and a light fast bullet for long open shots. My current deer rifles are 30/06 bolt,30/06 semi-auto,30/30 lever(dads),270 pump.<br /> My former deer rifles were 30/30 bolt,30/40 krag bolt,45/70 lever,257 roberts bolt.(low recoil but my divorce got that one)<br /><br /> Also like rodbolt I take my camera with me. I am beginning to get more enjoyment out of watching the deer then shooting them. I no longer will shoot small bucks. "Let them go so they can grow"
 

deputydawg

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I may have missed it here but check your state laws. Some states require a shotgun with slugs for deer hunting.
 

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Okay, you have been given a lot of the basic info about rifles, different tyes, etc. Another thing to think about is recoil! How much the gun kicks! There are a lot of reasons why a gun will "kick" you in the shoulder more than others, like a heavier gun will kick less than a lighter gun, how the gun is made, the amount of powder and type of powder in the casing, etc.<br /><br />But the louder the gun, and the more it kicks, can effect your accuracy and enjoyment of the sport.<br /><br />So, are you hunting in fields, open woods, or thick brush. Will you be hunting mountains, or hills and plains? This determines how much you need a bullet that will reach out 200, 300, or even 500 yards and still have enough energy to penetrate a deer and drop it in its tracks.<br /><br />The farther out you are shooting, the more a slight flinch will effect your bullett placement.<br /><br />My suggestion? Learn to shoot well with a .22 or .22 mag. Maybe even the newer .17's. Once you are accurate with one of these, then borrow some of your buddies guns. Avoid the .30-06 at first. Start off with some target and varmint hunting with a .220 Swift, or a .223, or a .22 hornet. Most of these are not excessively loud, and don't kick. (Use ear plugs or muffs when shooting). Then you can work your way up. If you can borrow a .243, or a .257 Roberts, or a .25-06 the first year, that might be a good idea. Be really carful with your shot placement. Make sure you are hunting with someone that is knowledgeable and can teach you the signs of the woods, shot placement, stocking, and tracking after the shot.<br /><br />Once you are sure you are going to enjoy the great outdoors, and you know a little more about your terrain, then you can decide what gun will be best for you.<br /><br />For me, I take the gun that suits my feelings for the day and the area I am going to hunt. My guns of choice are the .220 Swift, 6MM, .243, .257, .270, .32 Remmington, .35 Remmington, and on occasions a .270 mag, 20 guage with slugs or 12 guage with slugs.<br /><br />I like the .30-06, I just haven't found a real steal on one I like yet. Many on these boards will say some of my lighter calibres are too light for deer, but I have had more run from the larger cals than the smaller ones. I guess I am more careful with the smaller calibres, and I like them because for the most part they will not tear up the deer as much, leaving more of the yummy meat for me to enjoy.<br /><br />So that is my .02 cents, and I know that 2 pennies aren't worth a whole lot, unless they are a collector's prize, so you get to decide that! HA!
 

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Try this site; click on guns & shooting. You have lots of reading and most of it good.<br /><br /> http://www.chuckhawks.com/ <br /><br />I'm with aspect with starting light, 22, and working up. I shoot 270 and 7mm; bolt, pump and semi. The bolt, model 70, 270 kicks hard; but, I reload and this has the strongest action. And, I use it for open range shots - miss the first one and their moving, more chance of a cripple, so I rarely take two. Pump 270; model 760, I really like and would recommend it to any factory load shooter -- does have a kick. Semi loader is 7mm, very little kick and accurate. I can work the pump about as quick as the semi works. The best part is very little kick. Had to get my nephew using it to help him over flinching -- for new users semi's are good. Use 30-30 if I'm in the brush -- we have large areas of diamond willows up here and anything with a scope and light bullet is not much use.<br /><br />That said; and, I love the 270, 30-06 is hard to beat and would be my recommdation as a general all around cartridge. But, I'm not giving up my 270 or 7mm (shoots about the same as the 270 -- inherited it). And, I swear (my prejudice) I'll out shoot the '06 over 250 yards.
 

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consider a Ruger 77 stainless steel, synthetic stock. Though I prefer the esthetic's of blue steel and wood, stainless/plastic takes a beating, and you don't have to worry about scratching your pride and joy. Any decent 3x9x40 scope priced around $150 or so will serve you well. 30.06, or 270 Winchester.<br /><br />If shotgun, Mossberg has reasonable priced durable combos, smooth bbl and an additional rifled bbl. IMO, optics are not needed for a shotgun.<br /><br />Lots of great advice here. I myself hunt with sported milsurp rifles. This year in addition to the sported K98 or 1917 Eddystone, I may take an unaltered 1943 Russian M38 Mosin-Nagant carbine milsurp just for fun. 7.62x54R cartridge. Similar to 30.06 ballisticaly. <br /><br />Have fun and enjoy!
 

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grenade launcher?
 

rodbolt

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I own one of these but in most places its not legal to http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976641228.htmhunt big game.<br /> 1878 vetreli from the waffeberk armory. ammo is scarece and if oneday I find a spare bolt I may convert it to 41 cal colt. mine still has the spare firing pin in the butt and the cleaning rod.
 

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By pjc, consider a Ruger 77 stainless steel, synthetic stock. Though I prefer the esthetic's of blue steel and wood, stainless/plastic takes a beating, and you don't have to worry about scratching your pride and joy. Any decent 3x9x40 scope priced around $150 or so will serve you well. 30.06, or 270 Winchester. <br /><br /> Here is my Ruger M77 stainless/plastic. Just something about plastic stocks that just ain't right to me so I bought a walnut new takeoff stock off ebay for about $100 with shipping. This is my baby.<br /><br /> stl, don't leave you hunting pants laying around or your wife will throw them in the washer with regular laundry soap. That is a no-no because the brighteners in the soap will make your pants glow in the woods like mine are in the photo. :mad: <br /><br />
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