New fangled wire nuts?

[Mark42]

Was installing a new recessed light and noticed that the wires on the "can" came with a "push in" fitting on the ends. This is in place of using wire nuts. Kind of cool, because you just strip the wire and push it in. I cut them off and used wire nuts anyway because I have seen too many wires come loose that were inserted into the back of the outlets instead of using the screw connection on the side.<br /><br />Do you think this will be the wire connector of the future?

 

[eurolarva]

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I doubt it. You will still need wire nuts for the daisy chained wires. I have seen boxes with up to 5 wires twisted together. Most lights I have installed you need the wire nut just to let it hang while you try and tie the next wire together. Has to be one of my worst honey do list items.

 

[demsvmejm]

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Wire nuts on trailer wires? That's ASKING for trouble. Any wiring exposed to the environment needs to be fully sealed or corrosion will develop. And the wiring on a trailer is for lights, the lights are for safety and we want to protect our safety with nothing less than the best. And wire nuts are definately the best, even when wrapped with tape. Now if your talking about wiring in your home, well that's not my dept.<br /><br />On vehicular applications I only use Solid-Seal connectors. You heat them with a heat gun, or torch and they self-seal and self-solder. There's nothing better than a soldered connection, unless the joint is constantly flexing. In most vehicular applications the connections vibrate, but don't flex.

 

[parrotthead04]

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they are called "wagos" I have used them several times. They cost bout the same as a wirenut, they are much faster, and come in several different sizes. I think up to 8 wires. I havent had any problems with them so far.

 

[RedRangerVIP]

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Have you guys seen the ones at Napa that have the electrical conduit jell in them? I was thinking of trying them out. Just a thought.

 

[mikecjn]

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RedRanger,<br />When installing alarm systems we have some small ones that are filled with the jell that we use for outside applications such as tying into phone lines. I am pretty sure it is silicone. We never had any problem with them. Once installed, they sealed it from corrosion.

 

[RedRangerVIP]

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Thanks for the info Mike. I think I'll give em a try on my trailer wiring.

 

[cbnoodles]

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Originally posted by mikecjn:<br /> RedRanger,<br />When installing alarm systems we have some small ones that are filled with the jell that we use for outside applications such as tying into phone lines. I am pretty sure it is silicone. We never had any problem with them. Once installed, they sealed it from corrosion.

mike,<br />Hi, I'm a former alarm installer (18 years). You are describing filled B-connectors or what we in the Philly area call "chicklets". They are great for 20 AWG wire or smaller but don't allow for heavier gauges. Bell Tel techs around here used to call the filler "icky pick" due to the sticky mess they would make if you got it on your tools, hands, or clothing. At any rate, they are the best connection I've ever seen for environmental applications other than epoxy-filled splices.

 

[mikecjn]

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Professor,<br />Yep...that's the same thing we call them up here. I just didn't think some one not familiar with them would know what the heck I was talking about. <br />Those things are great and quick to use. Once you squeezed them on, they were on for good.<br />I used them on my trailer light wiring by rounding them just a bit and they were just big enough. After that I coated them with the liquid electrical tape. They are on there for good.

 

[Snookster]

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Trailor wireing is always a pain. For best results:<br /><br />Be sure the wire is clean & non corroded to start with. Crimp on connectors can be unreliable and are subjetc to vibration etc. - I prefere to solder all connections - but here's the hint - B4 you solder (and use rosin core solder) your connections slide the appropriate size shring tube on the wire. (go the electrical supply house or Radio Shack) Make the joint, apply a thin coat of no-ox gel on the bare wire, slide the shrink tube in place with at least an inch extra on both sides - use a heat gun or a blow dryer - it'll last for years.