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[Jeff J]

I would expect a procedure like I had to use to disable the seat belt alarm and the self locking doors to be buried in the owner’s manual.

 

[BWR1953]

Just out of curiosity, what vehicle? Most any ive had let you turn it off for regular cruise but I imagine there are a few out there...

2026 Hyundai Santa Cruz XRT

 

[Jeff J]

Try this link to use regular cruise control. I didn’t watch it, only went by the video description.

Vehicle Operation | Hyundai Resources | MyHyundai

Find Hyundai parts and accessories information on the MyHyundai resources portal. Find performance and aftermarket parts information here.

owners.hyundaiusa.com

 

[BWR1953]

Try this link to use regular cruise control. I didn’t watch it, only went by the video description.

Vehicle Operation | Hyundai Resources | MyHyundai

Find Hyundai parts and accessories information on the MyHyundai resources portal. Find performance and aftermarket parts information here.

owners.hyundaiusa.com

Thanks. I entered my info and it said Vehicle not found!

However, I have RTFM and watched a bunch of videos with no success.

To clarify for everyone, I'm talking about being able to switch from Active Cruise Control (the smart version) to standard cruise by pushing a button. So far, no joy.

I'll have the dealer check it out when I go for my first oil change.

 

[Pmt133]

2026 Hyundai Santa Cruz XRT

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Ah yeah. Don't know much about those other than a girl at work has one lol.

 

[Jeff J]

Thanks. I entered my info and it said Vehicle not found!

However, I have RTFM and watched a bunch of videos with no success.

To clarify for everyone, I'm talking about being able to switch from Active Cruise Control (the smart version) to standard cruise by pushing a button. So far, no joy.

I'll have the dealer check it out when I go for my first oil change.

Yeah, I noticed they did not have the 2026 manuals in the website yet. I was hoping the video on that page would help you locate it. I read something that made me think the vehicle didn’t come with a printed manual either but I could have misread it or that info was incorrect.

After reading up on it, adaptive cruise control is not something I would want to have… ever. Seems unsafe to me because it’s generally a bad idea to have random braking in traffic for no valid reason.

 

[bruceb58]

After reading up on it, adaptive cruise control is not something I would want to have… ever. Seems unsafe to me because it’s generally a bad idea to have random braking in traffic for no valid reason.

I passed on buying a 2018 GM truck because they didn't have it and bought a Ford instead.

I worked for GM on adaptive cruise control in the the mid 90s. While working on it and our test vehicles, I realized how I would never buy a car without it.

As far as random braking in traffic, it happens so seldom that it's a non issue. You of course don't need to have adaptive cruise control on in traffic if you don't want to engage it. I keep it on since it actually makes it more relaxing and safer.

I probably mentioned this incident earlier in the thread...I was one of 3 cars driving down a canyon in southern California headed to the beach. The car in front of me and I were following at safe distances. All of a sudden the car in front slams on his brakes to turn off the road into a dirt turnout while doing 55 MPH. I was not paying proper attention so my 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe slammed on its brakes on its own. The braking was so severe that my head hurt after the incident. I missed the bumper of the car in front of me by a few feet. If I did not have the collision avoidance braking, it would have been a bad crash and my car and the car in front of me would probably be totaled.

Would be interesting to know how many of the anti technology people on this thread are over 65. I am 67 and love the technology but I am also a retired design electrical engineer so been used to being in advanced technology my entire life.

 

[Pmt133]

I'm 29 and hate pretty much all of it so....

 

[Jeff J]

I’m 59 and thinking my next truck should be an early seventies at the newest 3/4 ton with a modern engine. 8-10 mpg and 100,000 miles was about the best you could hope for with the original drivetrain so some upgrades are warranted.

I dislike key fobs and pretty much anything that supports lazy/inattentive drivers. There was something like 400 accidents in Tulsa today and the weather wasn’t that bad.

 

[bruceb58]

I’m 59 and thinking my next truck should be an early seventies at the newest 3/4 ton with a modern engine. 8-10 mpg and 100,000 miles was about the best you could hope for with the original drivetrain so some upgrades are warranted.

I dislike key fobs and pretty much anything that supports lazy/inattentive drivers. There was something like 400 accidents in Tulsa today and the weather wasn’t that bad.

LOL...have you ever driven an early 70's truck? And what modern engine do you plan on putting in this 70's truck? Where are you planning on buying a 70's truck that isn't a rusting hulk?

What kind of truck do use currently?

As far as not favoring anything that supports lazy/inattentive drivers...you better hope(for your back and spine's sake) the inattentive driver that's behind you has a collision avoidance system.

 

[Scott Danforth]

My next truck will be a 1967 GMC K20 with a custom quad cab on a custom chassis with a 5.9 P-punp Cummins and a 6-speed manual transmission.

 

[BWR1953]

Yeah, I noticed they did not have the 2026 manuals in the website yet. I was hoping the video on that page would help you locate it. I read something that made me think the vehicle didn’t come with a printed manual either but I could have misread it or that info was incorrect.

After reading up on it, adaptive cruise control is not something I would want to have… ever. Seems unsafe to me because it’s generally a bad idea to have random braking in traffic for no valid reason.

I have the paper manual, plus a .pdf file of it as well.
ACC, if properly designed and installed, can work quite well. Maybe the dealer will figure it out.

 

[BWR1953]

I passed on buying a 2018 GM truck because they didn't have it and bought a Ford instead.

I worked for GM on adaptive cruise control in the the mid 90s. While working on it and our test vehicles, I realized how I would never buy a car without it.

As far as random braking in traffic, it happens so seldom that it's a non issue. You of course don't need to have adaptive cruise control on in traffic if you don't want to engage it. I keep it on since it actually makes it more relaxing and safer.

I probably mentioned this incident earlier in the thread...I was one of 3 cars driving down a canyon in southern California headed to the beach. The car in front of me and I were following at safe distances. All of a sudden the car in front slams on his brakes to turn off the road into a dirt turnout while doing 55 MPH. I was not paying proper attention so my 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe slammed on its brakes on its own. The braking was so severe that my head hurt after the incident. I missed the bumper of the car in front of me by a few feet. If I did not have the collision avoidance braking, it would have been a bad crash and my car and the car in front of me would probably be totaled.

Would be interesting to know how many of the anti technology people on this thread are over 65. I am 67 and love the technology but I am also a retired design electrical engineer so been used to being in advanced technology my entire life.

During the incident that I mentioned back in Post #557, my truck hit the brakes so hard that the ABS was activated. The car behind me slammed on their brakes and ended up about a foot behind me.

My prior Trucklet was a 2022 Santa Cruz. It didn't have Active Cruise Control but it did have that auto-braking feature. A couple of times in parking lots it jammed on the brakes while I was poking along and another car 100' away on the other side of a median moved across my path. It hit the brakes and forced a stop. It just needs to be "smarter" in order to be helpful.

As for me, I'm 72 and a retired NASA space systems engineer. Technology has been in my life since forever. And I do enjoy using it when it performs well. I recall being asked in a store by a woman about my age if she could help me find something. I was rummaging through the shelves, searching for my product. I told her that I was fine and that I saw on my phone that the item was in stock in that bin. She lifted her nose up in a haughty manner and said "Oh, you're using a phone. I don't even have one of those" in a snobby voice.

Well, I never! Lots of Luddites out there in the world.

I did find my product right after that.

 

[Jeff J]

LOL...have you ever driven an early 70's truck? And what modern engine do you plan on putting in this 70's truck? Where are you planning on buying a 70's truck that isn't a rusting hulk?

What kind of truck do use currently?

As far as not favoring anything that supports lazy/inattentive drivers...you better hope(for your back and spine's sake) the inattentive driver that's behind you has a collision avoidance system.

I’m 59 and was a farm kid. I have driven several.

The technology only makes it worse. Look at the morons crashing Teslas with auto steering because they thought drive time was nap time. The more technology takes over the more stupid and ineffective we will become as a species.

 

[Scott Danforth]

. Look at the morons crashing Teslas with auto steering because they thought drive time was nap time. .

That's just darwinism

 

[Lou C]

I think like with anything else, due to the differences in human nature, you will see different outcomes. Some will welcome the new tech, and learn how to use it best, others don't like it, will not use it or fight it. Engineers can engineer logically better systems, but the human element, is not nor will it ever be 100% logical.
Years back I recall an interesting story from the insurance industry. At one time us old timers will recall, ABS was a new and not common feature. Mainly on premium cars. As it became more available, insurance companies thought it would be a money saver for them (logically enough) so they started offering insurance discounts for those who purchased cars with ABS brakes, or added them as an option. Then they did a study, to determine, did it reduce accidents and claims. What they found was that it didn't! People either didn't understand how ABS works, or they drove faster, or took more risks because they had this new system that was going to 'save them'. So once again, the human element intrudes into a logically designed system! And guess what, no more insurance discount for ABS. This was back in the late 80s IIRC.
Is the same thing happening with automatic braking and cruise control? I would doubt it being automatic, but at the same time, don't underestimate the unpredictability of the human element!

 

[bruceb58]

I’m 59 and was a farm kid. I have driven several.

The technology only makes it worse. Look at the morons crashing Teslas with auto steering because they thought drive time was nap time. The more technology takes over the more stupid and ineffective we will become as a species.

And even with those incidents, still safer than a human not using the system. I am guessing you wouldn't get into a Waymo taxi that doesn't have a driver in it!

With Tesla FSD engaged, one crash every 6.69 million miles driven. Without it engaged, one crash every 963,000 miles driven.

I have owned multiple 70's pick up trucks and Suburbans. I wouldn't drive one of those if they were the last trucks on earth! Even my 1990 Chevy Suburban was still the exact same design as the ones in 1972. I was super glad to get rid of that pile of crap.

I still want to know what modern engine you think you are going to put in a 70's era pickup truck.

 

[bruceb58]

Mainly on premium cars. As it became more available, insurance companies thought it would be a money saver for them (logically enough) so they started offering insurance discounts for those who purchased cars with ABS brakes, or added them as an option. Then they did a study, to determine, did it reduce accidents and claims. What they found was that it didn't! People either didn't understand how ABS works, or they drove faster, or took more risks because they had this new system that was going to 'save them'.

When I worked at GM. I was working at the GM proving grounds. I had to take a week long drivers course before I was allowed to drive on the facility. One of the modified cars we were taught on had a switch where the instructor could turn on and off ABS. It was night and day the difference in braking and accident avoidance between on and off. One of the tests was following a truck and they threw boxes out and the instructor told us at the last second to steer right or left and brake. With the ABS turned off, you always hit the boxes.

Have you ever driven a motorcycle with ABS brakes? It's an amazing thing when you have to stop fast. No rear wheel moving to the side of you.

 

[Pmt133]

Had the displeasure of driving a rolling dumpster (cybertruck) the only good thing I can say about it was getting out of it ASAP.

A lot of the accidents here have been the Teslas. Mainly because the inbreds well... they drive them like inbreds. Natural selection needs not be curved at this point. If I'm gonna get taken out by, or take out someone who did something stupid so be it. After dealing with enough mouth breathers daily I'm pretty comfortable to say we definitely screwed up somewhere.

 

[Lou C]

When I worked at GM. I was working at the GM proving grounds. I had to take a week long drivers course before I was allowed to drive on the facility. One of the modified cars we were taught on had a switch where the instructor could turn on and off ABS. It was night and day the difference in braking and accident avoidance between on and off. One of the tests was following a truck and they threw boxes out and the instructor told us at the last second to steer right or left and brake. With the ABS turned off, you always hit the boxes.

Have you ever driven a motorcycle with ABS brakes? It's an amazing thing when you have to stop fast. No rear wheel moving to the side of you.

I recall watching the first video of a Bendix ABS equipped Jeep Cherokee vs non ABS back in the 80's. Amazing difference for winter driving especially...