new to me bayliner

jaingo

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i bought a 1989 bayliner capri with an 85 horsepower force and was wondering if the prop spins in neutral can i do anything for this ive only run it on muffs so far also it wont rev up when i put the trottle foreward...this is my first boat but i am a mechanical guy just have some learning to do thanks
 

MikDee

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Re: new to me bayliner

Yes, sometimes the prop will spin a little in neutral, just keep yourself, & the hose away. You can goose it a little, but don't rev it much in neutral there's not enough water pressure for that off the hose. Maybe run it in a big barrel, but again don't race it!
 

Eddie Rivera

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Re: new to me bayliner

Sorry Jaingo, may I step in?

MikDee, may I ask why not? What can happen if I rev it all the way?
I did mine today, now it won't stay on idle nor will it start unless it's on high idle start. I think my barrel's water was low too and my motor got hot. I think we can all learn here, sorry it's just that no one Is answering my thread! :-(
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: new to me bayliner

A motor without a load can "run away" and over rev.
No one's up at 3am= no reply's.
 

Jiggz

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Re: new to me bayliner

The biggest danger of racing a motor on muffs or tanks is the possibility of overheating due to insufficient cooling water. One of the most common "destroyer" of outboard motors is overheating which can cause piston ring failure and eventually cylinder scoring. Overheating greatly reduces lubrication of the ring and cylinder and can result in catastrophic damage in matters of seconds. In fact, it generally takes as little as 15 seconds from a total loss of impeller at WOT speed to damage rings and cylinders.

If you try to race your engine while in a barrel, make sure there is a continuous flow of water into the barrel to ensure proper water heat exchange and also water level. Or better yet use a large barrel and not just a trash can barrel. With a prop spinning at high speed, it creates air bubbles causing cavitations in the impeller thus reducing water flow into the engine which can cause overheating regardless of the size of the barrel.

On muffs, with a positive pressure from the faucet, there is this wrong impression that same water pressure will provide sufficient cooling thus racing the engine should be OK. FALSE. The muffs can only hold so much pressure before it starts leaking all over its sides. When faucet is opened all the way, you actually get less water into the impeller because the water pressure lifts the muffs off the water inlet surface thus providing a less resistance path for water just to leak off the sides rather than going to the impeller. And if you race your motor, guaranteed it will overheat. Remember the muffs basically are for flushing the motor only and minor engine run testing.

Bottom line, do not race motors while on muffs or small sized barrels. If you must you should only do it intermittently and not to exceed 3000RPM a couple of seconds at a time.
 
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Eddie Rivera

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Re: new to me bayliner

Thank you Jerry, roger that - I originally started the thread earlier that day around 7. I am overwhelmed and frustrated - my apologies!

Jiggz, what an amazing explanation. I truly thank you, you helped me visualize it and fully understand every thing you said. I will start a new thread (my own) and truly hope you could find it in your heart to help me. Thanks everyone.
 
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