NFL Officiating TROLL

[txswinner]

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Hey, only TWO calls. No question one sided officiating.<br /><br />1. Goal line, official runs in 1/2 way indicating short of touch down.<br /><br />2. End zone interference questionable call at best and then why not off setting did no one else see Pittsburg defender pushing receiver?<br /><br />3. Illegal block by Seattle quarterback, 10 yards after interception. Obvious attempt by official to effect the game.<br /><br />4. Holding on Seattle right tackle on long pass play 10 yards and loss of 30 yards on pass play. Even Madden said on replay that is NOT holding.<br /><br />5. Hasselbeck call as fumble instead of down by contact with ground and thank goodness it was overturned.<br /><br />None of the official calls went against Pittsburg.<br />Overall officiating was D- to F+ and calls favored Pittsburg. These 5 calls went from just blown bad calls to questionable. <br /><br />No doubt they effected the outcome of a good and important game. You would think there are better officials available.

 

[txswinner]

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FSHKPR, the down by contact call was correct as shown in replay. I do have a replay book, just because I like to keep up and was an official (college not pro) several years back.<br /><br />College has a lot of officials that are much better than the pros but it takes money and politics to get on the pro list.

 

[aspeck]

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1. Goal line, official runs in 1/2 way indicating short of touch down.

He had one hand up, the other hand, I am not sure what he was doing, but he never stopped and marked it short with his foot or marker - it was all one continuous motion. I am not sure he had made up his mind as to what to do, until he raised both arms. On review, I saw the end of the football touch the imaginary plain of the white goal line (remember, it is imaginary ). Seriously, I thought it was the right call, but it if had gone the other way, it would have been hard to over turn that call also.<br /><br />

2. End zone interference questionable call at best and then why not off setting did no one else see Pittsburg defender pushing receiver?

Pittsburgh is spelled with an "H" at the end. Again, I don't think it was as questionable as it was picky.<br /><br />

3. Illegal block by Seattle quarterback, 10 yards after interception. Obvious attempt by official to effect the game.<br />

I'll give you the first part of that one - the official missed the tackle. If Hasselbeck had hit just the blocker, it would have been the correct call, but he also got the ball carrier and was going for the tackle, not to wipe out the interference. Bad call, but I do not think it was an official trying to effect the game. He called something that he could have legitimately seen, it was just the blocker was obscuring the ball carrier. IT WAS BAD CALL, but I question your insinuation that it had malicious intent.<br /><br />

4. Holding on Seattle right tackle on long pass play 10 yards and loss of 30 yards on pass play. Even Madden said on replay that is NOT holding.

It looked to me like he was hooking - he was behind the guy at the END of the block and still had his arm around his shoulder. It didn't start out as a hold, but it ended up as one.<br /><br />

5. Hasselbeck call as fumble instead of down by contact with ground and thank goodness it was overturned.

As I said, it probably was the correct call, and I am glad they got it right. If the officials wanted to make sure the Steelers won, they wouldn't have overturned it.<br /><br />Like I already said, those that are upset with the outcome of the game shouldn't be pointing their fingers at the officials, but at Holmgren and Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck played a great game - probably the best performance of any player on the field, but he messed up big time at the end of both halves.

 

[FSHKPR]

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FSHKPR, the down by contact call was correct as shown in replay. I do have a replay book, just because I like to keep up and was an official (college not pro) several years back.

yep thats exactly what said before. the call was technically correct, there was contact even tho that contact had nothing to do with hassleback going down so the call was technically right. same as the offensive interference the man plainly pushed off the defender, that push off probably did not make a differnce in the catch, still against the rules so the denied touchdown was also the technically correct call. i was not complaining about either just stating it went both ways, and that some people only see what they wanted to see.

 

[txswinner]

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Many officials maintain the unwritten rule of no gain no penalty. It just sometimes get messed up. There have been worse called games but none with plays that seemed to have had a greater effect than these.

 

[PierBridge]

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[/quote] that is ignorant [/QB][/quote]<br /><br />I don't have problem with the push off call or the touchdown that was not, I believe the Bus would have scored on 4th and an inch.<br /><br />The worst call and the Call that allowed me to win my bet was the Phanton holding call on the pass play that Seatle completed to the 1 yard line which would have resulted in Seatle taking the lead and giving me no chance to cover the spread. <br /><br />

ignorant

Is anybody that does not think the Steelers were helped by the bad officiating or anyone that thought this was a good Football game.<br /><br />The Good news after this years playoffs and SuperBowl officating debacle is the NFL is taking a hard look at getting some real Officials instead of the old out of shape weekend warriors that once again proved they have no business being on the Field.

 

[Bob_VT]

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It was clearly obvious that that the first thing that wears out on an official is the eyesight!!! It's all part of the game when we as fans see what is called and what is not called.... selective eyesight? Of course the camera angles and instant replays that we see cause some problems. Considering what the offials go through there calls and judgements have to be instantly made and made to satisfaction.<br /><br />If they intend to continue the replay review I believe more electronics should be involved such as goal line cameras.... or go back to the basics no reviews, no cameras just good old football.<br /><br />Yup the NFL needs a change. Officials should only be permitted to be used for one quarter and rotated out for a new one.

 

[technostingray]

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Originally posted by SBN:<br /> What about the touch down that wasn't. The ball came nowhere close to the plane of the goal line.<br />I did not care who won, but they missed that one for sure.

You must remember that the endzones starts at the playing field side of the white stripe. The same way the out of bounds lines are placed. Touch any part of the line you are out of bounds. Any part of the ball that reaches the plane is a TD. Extremely close but not in, maybe, but - no where close, hardly. The replay confirmed the call. How he could have called that a toughdown in real time is amazing. There is no way of knowing but if he had ruled no touchdown that too would have probably been upheld. :noappropriateemoticon:

 

[FLATHEAD]

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NFL Officiating BLOWS!! at best. How many guys here watch collage ball? That is the way the NFL should officiate things. <br /><br />Nothing I hate to see more than the officials take the game out of the players hands.<br /><br />Reminds me of an PIAA plate ump (high school) that wore bifocals and ruined every game he called.

 

[dogsdad]

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My television picture was not good enough to argue about the touchdown call. And I do not remember what down it was when Pittsburg ran that play, but if it was going to be second or third down, Seattle could not have kept them out of the endzone anyway. And I would not have been surprised to see Cowher run Bettis on fourth down and get the TD.<br /><br />But that pass interference call was too picky. I definitely did not see the defender move as a result of the alleged "push off."<br /><br />I do like both coaches, but I don't really give a rat's patootie who won the game...in fact, it would have suited me just fine if both teams had lost.

 

[Pony]

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But that pass interference call was too picky. I definitely did not see the defender move as a result of the alleged "push off."

I didnt at first....but watch a few replays, he hops backwards which takes him essentially out of the play.

 

[PW2]

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I am a partisan Seahawk fan, but there is no way the refs caused Seattle to lose that game. Sure there were a couple of close calls that could have gone either way, but then Stevens's catch that he fumbled was ruled incomplete, and it could have been ruled a fumble...<br /><br />Now the call against Hasselbeck for making a tackle was ridiculous, but then the game was over at that point.<br /><br />Seattle could have won the game if they had played better. Coulda, woulda, shoulda!

 

[dogsdad]

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You are right, PW2. Ultimately, the Seahawks just did not deal with adversity and play well, and did not deserve to win. And some of the clock mismanagement towards the ends of both halves was atrocious. Maybe next time.

 

[aspeck]

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PW, we agree again! WOW! I am starting to worry! I sure hope it is you that is changing !<br /><br />Did anyone see Ben last night on Letterman? He said he didn't think he had made it into the endzone, but it didn't matter because HE was going to run it in the next play anyway.

 

[txswinner]

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So the Steelers were the left wing democrats and Seattle the republicans correct.

 

[dogsdad]

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[TilliamWe]

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> I am a partisan Seahawk fan, but there is no way the refs caused Seattle to lose that game. Sure there were a couple of close calls that could have gone either way, but then Stevens's catch that he fumbled was ruled incomplete, and it could have been ruled a fumble...<br /><br />Now the call against Hasselbeck for making a tackle was ridiculous, but then the game was over at that point.<br /><br />Seattle could have won the game if they had played better. Coulda, woulda, shoulda!

And because of your healthy, realistic attitude, I do feel for you. I don't wish your team had won so you felt better, but I hope they do better in the future, so you may continue to enjoy watching them play. I raise a Rolling Rock to you, esteemed boating/football fan!