no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

dhenning72

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I have a SE106 outdrive. It will shift into forward and neutral, however when I try to put it into reverse I get nothing. I have adjusted the shift cable to spec. Prop will lock in forward/counter clockwise, but does not lock in reverse/counter clockwise. I have yet to put boat in water have only worked on it with muffs on. I just got the boat back from mechanic who supposedly did all this work needless to say did nothing that he claimed to have done. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I'm not that mechanically inclined but with Google and YouTube I have slowly been getting it done.
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Do you notice any difference when shifting, one way hard then the other?
How old are your shift cables.
Pull the drive back off and make sure the shift paw is engaging the foot correctly.

To remove drive:
Put shifter in full forward gear
Lift drive up enough to remove speedometer hose from drive
Turn prop counterclockwise to engage gear teeth, then put bungie cord on prop and drive to keep it from moving.
Lower drive almost all the way down
Remove hydraulic rams from drive
Remove 6-nuts and washers from drive and slide drive out just enough to be able to see if shift lever is engaging in correct position.

If shift foot is not engaged correctly reposition and slide back together.

Note: If you dodn't trust what your guy did may want to pull drive, change oil and replce impeller.
 

84EdH

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

just me: If I paid this "guy", I would bring it back to him before I did anything and let him fix it or get your money back. if you are going to do it yourself, go to the adult section at the beginning of this forum and go to mercruiser section and get your manual from the link provided and do some reading on shift cable repair etc. also, video links to how to do this work.
 

dhenning72

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Thanks! Actually at West Marine trying to find a manual, won't ever take anything back to that guy, 3 months and $1500, nothing done as claimed. Needless to say trying to get money back as well as working on it myself. Need to learn anyway if I want to own a boat! Anyone in Tallahassee FL that is willing to lend a hand let me know!
 

84EdH

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Fyi we only recommend the oem manual.
Experience has shown others lacking and sometimes wrong. Oem manual free online
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

I have a SE106 outdrive. It will shift into forward and neutral, however when I try to put it into reverse I get nothing. I have adjusted the shift cable to spec. Prop will lock in forward/counter clockwise, but does not lock in reverse/counter clockwise.

Which is it? F should be lock CCW, reverse should be lock CW. Should be able to figure it out but need to know for sure.
 
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dhenning72

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Forward is counter Clockwise
Reverse Clockwise

What is the "correct position for the shift lever"?

I have locked the prop counter clockwise with a bungie, but have not yet backed it off enough to look wanted to varify what i was looking for.

THanks!
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Hello dhenning.

The best advice to follow is in the stickies at the top of the forum... Here's a link directly to them..

http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser...have-technical-information-diyers-342393.html

In there you'll find answers to just about any question you have, but if something is not clear, ask away. Also try to learn the correct names for the various parts and components too. Makes it a lot easier when we're all talking the same language... ;) (We've had a few threads where someone is talking about one part and using the name for another... Makes it 'interesting' to read the questions and respective answers.. :facepalm: :lol:)

If you're looking for the manuals, you have a couple of options. There is a website that allows you to view them 'on-line', but you need to be on-line to do that. If you want 'off-line' access, you'll need a link to a pdf....

On-line manuals

If you'd like the pdf, you'll need to post your engine details; make, model, year and serial number...

Chris......
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Forward is counter Clockwise
Reverse Clockwise

What is the "correct position for the shift lever"?

I have locked the prop counter clockwise with a bungie, but have not yet backed it off enough to look wanted to varify what i was looking for.

THanks!

In forward gear the propeller should lock against the engine when turned CCW, and ratchet over the dog clutch ramps CW (makes a kind of clunk when it does it); and in reverse, the opposite, lock CW and ramp over the dogs CCW...

Not sure what you're asking about the 'shift lever'... and which shift lever? There are 3 that I can think of. The shift lever on the remote control box, the shift lever on the shift plate on the engine (where the remote control shift cable and the lower shift cable meet), and the shift lever in the bell-housing, that transfers the axial motion of the cable to rotary motion for the shift shaft...

Chris.........
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Forward is counter Clockwise
Reverse Clockwise

What is the "correct position for the shift lever"?

I have locked the prop counter clockwise with a bungie, but have not yet backed it off enough to look wanted to varify what i was looking for.

THanks!

The engine rotates the prop clockwise to move the boat forward. The shift lever should be in the full forward position. In this positition (FWD) the prop is rotated counter clockwise to engage the gear teeth. The pic below is for a GenII but note how the shift fork should hook in

Alpha genII_ShiftLever.jpg
 

dhenning72

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

Trying to pull drive now to see position of lever. I drained the lube and there was less than half a quart. The seal is old and brittle which tells me the "guy" didn't replace gimble bearing either. What a headache !
 

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Trying to pull drive now to see position of lever. I drained the lube and there was less than half a quart. The seal is old and brittle which tells me the "guy" didn't replace gimble bearing either. What a headache !

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,... Ya still haven't said Which Lever,...

'n what do ya mean, Tryin' to pull the drive,..??
 

84EdH

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

If you mean the shift shaft shoes they can be seen from lying underneath drive and lookingb up. They should be straight ahead for drive to come off. They will be if remote control in full forward.
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

I am trying to back the outdrive off a little bit so I can see the position of the shift lever. As it is now when I pull the lower shift cable by hand it will not pull out far enough to put it in reverse. Really hoping it's not the shift cable.
 

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Re: no reverse wellcraft eclipse 233 1989

I am trying to back the outdrive off a little bit so I can see the position of the shift lever. As it is now when I pull the lower shift cable by hand it will not pull out far enough to put it in reverse. Really hoping it's not the shift cable.

The thing you put your hand on while driving the boat needs to be in the full forward position in order to remove the drive. Don't move the shift cable when doing so.

As others have mentioned we do not fully understand exactly what your trying to convey. Please take a picture and post
 
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