NOOB Here...

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Alright I have a problem, I have a 1992 Sea Ray 170 Mercruiser. It is a bow rider and has an Inboard/Outboard. Now my problem is, what is the model? I don't have the owners manual. It is leading up to a question about the bilge pump.:confused:
 

Don S

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Pictures of the engine and the outdrive will help.
Also look at the rear of the engine block, there should be a metal tag with the engine model and Serial numbers.
However, the bilge pump has nothing to do with the engine, and the engine could be exactly the same as the engine in a Bayliner, or Glastron, or any other boat. There are only a few engine manufacturers for marine engine and drive systems, and all the boat manufactures have to use them.
If you have questions about your bilge pump, best thing to do is post over in the Boat Topics and Questions (not engine topics) forum. This forum is for Engine and drive topics.
 
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Well I can't upload pictures:(. I tryed every setting the camera had and the smallest I could get the pictures is 115 KB. Any other way? No little thing on the back of the engine block.
 

Maclin

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You should be able to resize your pics using software already on your computer.

In Windows you can use Microsoft Office Picture Manger or Windows Picture and Fax viewer to edit them. Your camera upload software may also have some of these features, I know I have an HP camera and we loaded all the software it came with and it has stuff like that.

You have to edit it before you put it up to the hosting site.
 
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Alright here's the bilge pump question I know it should be in the other forum but here it goes: I have a 500 GPH bilge pump and when I go to turn it on I get nothing. I believe it is an electrical problem and I have mess around with the stereo system quite a bit (gotta have the tunes:D:cool:) Now my question is I don't really know where to start: the electronics don't come out at the bilge pump itself so where do I begin or where do they come out? And I can do the pictures thing now so I will take pictures:)
 

JustJason

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looks like a 120/140 with an alpha 1.....
but that's irrelevent of the bilge pump.....

Unless your asking how do you remove a 120 to install a bilge pump :D
 

JustJason

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if your looking for an education in basic electrical circuits and troubleshooting them you may want to pick up a class at a community college.....
Your not going to learn how to fix it from an internet forum.
 

Boatin Bob

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One of the mod's will probably move this over to the electric forum but if you have a multimeter or at least a test light you could begin with checking at the switch to see if you have power (12vdc) if not then move back further to the fuse or breaker. Does everything else work, nav lights, horn, courtesy lights, wiper (whatever else you have)?
 

sparky3705

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this may be/sound like a stupid question but is there water in the bilge to pump out? the bilge will run but if its like mine,it's hard to hear and unless there is water deep enough to reach the inlet it will appear that it doesn't work
 

Don S

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You have a Mercruiser 3.0L engine, with an Alpha I Gen II outdrive, they could be either 91 or 92, impossible to say without a SN.
But since this is all about power to your bilge pump anyway, i'll just move it over to the electrical forum.
 

littlebookworm

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The bilge pump circuit is fairly simple and straight forward. You should have 12v coming from a source under the dash going to the bilge pump fuse. From there it goes to the switch. Most switches have three positions, On, Off, Automatic. When you flip the switch On, the pump should spin, even if there's no water in the bilge. When you flip the switch to Automatic, power now goes directly to a float switch in the bilge, and from there to the pump. The pump, in the Automatic setting, will only work if there is water in the bilge to lift the floating arm of the float switch. If you lift the float switch arm, the pump should work. There is a second wire coming from the pump which goes to the ground. Using a light or a meter, check if you have electricity to the switch. If not, check the fuse and the wiring in between the power source and the switch. If yes, check at the pump for electricity. A test lamp with a probe point works great for that. If not, check the wiring from the switch to the pump. If yes, check the pump itself. Must pump cases pop open to clean out the pump. If debris is caught inside, the pump won't spin. If the pump is bad, replace it. I recommend you put in a more powereful pump since the cost difference is small, the physical sizes are usually the same, and the output helps when you need it. Good luck. Hy
 
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