Oiler Removal, OMC

hlcave

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I just purchased a home on Lake Livingston, and a 70HP Johnson, 97 year model on a pontoon boat hanging in a boat house. Engine not started in over 12-15 months. Changed fuel, engine starts, oils way excessively, even to oil slick on water. Want to disconnect oiler completely and premix. Previous forum answers to this request drop the balance of the instructions regarding the wiring portion of the disconnect. Help with this would be appreciated. Thanks, Howard
 

funpilot

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

How much have you ran this motor? It is possible that the engine was stored with a fogging oil in it?

Not what you asked, but before I removed the 'oiler' I would do a link and synch on the carbs, and get to know the motor. The VRO system is very reliable, makes for easier fueling, and if you remember to check the oil tank, easier oiling. It is also more environmentally sound and will not separate as premix can.

fp
 

JC1933

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

Keep the OMS pump that way you wont forget to mix oil into your gas....d:)
 

hlcave

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

funpilot said:
How much have you ran this motor? It is possible that the engine was stored with a fogging oil in it?

Not what you asked, but before I removed the 'oiler' I would do a link and synch on the carbs, and get to know the motor. The VRO system is very reliable, makes for easier fueling, and if you remember to check the oil tank, easier oiling. It is also more environmentally sound and will not separate as premix can.

fp
 

hlcave

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

I ran the motor 30 minutes, no improvement. I have 20 other boats that require premix, and I've never forgotten. Have numerous friends who wiped out OMCs with auto oiler that malfunctioed. THE OILER ISN'T WORKING RIGHT. I asked for directions on disconnecting, not for advice on leaving as is.
 

funpilot

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

I'm glad you were able to tell in only 30 minutes that 'THE OILER ISN'T WORKING RIGHT'. Perhaps with your experience with 20 other boats, and conversing with your numerous friends who have trashed OMCs because of 'oilers' you can come up with your own answers.

I did acknowledge that you didn't ask how to keep your 'oiler', but I was offering you my experience based on my two engines, with a total of over 25 years experience using VRO with never a pump induced motor failure. I still think a link and synch, a compression test and some other maintenance procedures are in order first.

Good luck, what ever you choose to do.

fp
 

hlcave

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

funpilot said:
I'm glad you were able to tell in only 30 minutes that 'THE OILER ISN'T WORKING RIGHT'. Perhaps with your experience with 20 other boats, and conversing with your numerous friends who have trashed OMCs because of 'oilers' you can come up with your own answers.

I did acknowledge that you didn't ask how to keep your 'oiler', but I was offering you my experience based on my two engines, with a total of over 25 years experience using VRO with never a pump induced motor failure. I still think a link and synch, a compression test and some other maintenance procedures are in order first.

Good luck, what ever you choose to do.

fp
 

hlcave

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

I disconnected per directions received from ob, filled tank with 50 to 1 mix, purged line, started, and watched engine run through full RPM range with virtually no smoke trail, no oil patches on water. Seems as if I did, in fact, have a defective oiler. My understanding is that a series of oiler problems was behind the OMC bankruptcy, but most problems were with under, not over oiling. Thanks everybody for the input. Howard
 

afphinfan

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

I have a Johnson 60 (TJ60TLESM) w/VRO that is disconnected. I do not know the history of this boat and motor but after having read many different posts it seems that VRO could have been disconnected due to a problem or because of dislike. From what I can tell the pump is still there, and some electrical connections were cut ... the tank is gone.

So my question is, can I test the system (what is left of it) to determine whether I should pursue adding the necessary parts to make it work ... or screw it and stick with premix? I don't mind premix in yard equip but mixing a larger tank is a pain unless you use a smaller can and do 5 gallons or so at a time.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: Oiler Removal, OMC

You could get yourself a new/used oil tank, primer bulb and oil line (E-bay has them all the time for cheap) and hook it back up to the pump while continuing to use pre-mix. Make a mark on the oil tank after you fill it and make sure the level drops. This would indicate that the pump is still working fine. You would then need to hook the wiring back up for the alarms...
 
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