Old whaler or new Key West?

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I need a good 18 to 20 ft boat to slip out to the edge of the ocean with. I have a almost new 17 Keywest 115 yamaha 4 stroke. I need something bigger. I Like the older 18/19 whaler outrage. I can buy a much newer 19 or even 20 Keywest for about the same price. Motor would also be newer. Any thoughts....of course I think I know the answer.<br /><br />tom :confused:
 

22WRF

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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

A biased reply from some one that has 3 Whalers and loved them all.<br /><br />Going to bluewater? Give me a 22 Outrage with twin OMC 90's or 115's
 
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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

22 is a little bigger than I need to also fish the rivers., pull skiers etc. When i go that far a friends 56 foot Paul Mann boat does the trick
 

22WRF

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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

Ah ha a snook fisherman?<br />stepping down a Whaler Montauk 17' CC 75-90 OMC <br />90 best he best choice.<br />And one built befre 82
 
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No snook in coastal Georgia....But don't I wish there were. Remember I have a 17 Keywest so the Montauk would not be any bigger. It might be better but Its not bigger. I would like to be able to carry more than 4 people in the boat if we go out to one of the barrier islands. The 18/19 outrage looks like it would be a good fit as does the 20 CC Keywest. <br />Tom
 

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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

No brainer as far as I can see, TI.<br /><br />A early to mid 80s Outrage 18 will not depreciate noticably in the next 5 years and is a superior boat to a brand new anything you want to name in that size range.<br /><br />Like, LCM, I have had Whalers (7), including a couple of OR-18s. Still have 2, a Montauk and a Tender 11.<br /><br />Owning a BW is like owning a Mercedes. After that, nothing else seems adequate.<br /><br />Good luck. :)
 

mattttt25

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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

take the key west with the new motor. very nice boats.
 

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my 02...<br />I would go for the newer motor rig. An old motor on any type boat is more likely to strand you and make you brave the elements and hazards. Either boat will do the job fine. In an extreme situation you may need the structure of the BW but that is a looooog shot in the real world and can be GREATLY made up by good seamanship, correct safety gear, having SeaTow and good electronics that will get rescue to you quickly.<br /><br />If you stay -20' both will have full flotation. If you are concerned about ride in rough going the KW wins. If fuel burn matters, KW wins...older BWs are tanks and show it at the gas pump. If overall quality, resale and status matters it is easily BW.<br /><br />I see plenty of stock "price" boats (many KWs around Florida)out in the gulfstream and the only ones that don't come back are from motor problems or poor seamanship. Breaking up from poor quality and leaving you floating offshore is 99% a myth. Structural failure from design, construction and workmanship is also 99% a myth. I could ask which is safer?...floating in a BW offshore with the old motor not working or making it back home in a KW with new motor? There is no doubt the BW makes a better life raft.<br /><br /> <br />Last but not least...No offense to BW lovers but I fished a 17'Montauk cc for 2 years (mid 80s) and it was one of the worst riding and worst layouts ever. Sloping deck fwd provided poor footing, sloping low sides so no support except for aftermarket rails, itty bitty storage, wet, wet, wet., pound, pound pound, offshore was brutal, etc.. The replacement to the BW was a 20'cc SeaRay Laguna and so much better it wasn't a contest.
 
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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

Just when it sounded like the Whaler had won I read the two newest posts.<br />I am supposing I would have similar motors or possibly even a newer one on the older BW. Old motors interest me when they are on a stand in my living room but not on my boat.<br /><br />We may almost have a tie here were it not for the fact a local old timer boat hull repair guy smiled and said, today, get the whaler....you can't go wrong
 

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Re: Old whaler or new Key West?

Just for kicks I'd like to throw another boat in the mix that I consider a very well built boat (much better than the Key West. I fished the Gulf in one of these for a number of years.<br />That boat being a 20' Wellcraft Open Fisherman CC.<br />The one I ran for the owner had a 115 Yamaha a 150 might have been a bit better.<br /><br />pic of one<br /><br /> http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/0/43427430.htm
 
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