OMC 351 King Cobra

IVAZ

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

The cap and rotor are expendable items. I also think it?s a good idea to replace them and try it out.
I just can?t see how you would have spark at the coil and not at the plugs if the wires, cap and rotor are good. Have you verified that the rotor spins when you crank the engine?
 

bruceb58

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

Have you verified that the rotor spins when you crank the engine?
The rotor has to spin...otherwise the spark pickup would not be able to detect anything and there would be no spark from the coil.
 

MikDee

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If you think your wires are good? :rolleyes: Get a new cap, the carbon center maybe broke in yours, or malfunctioning, it appears to be the weakest link in the chain, the rotor looks ok, (what can go wrong with a rotor?) and it looks like the center tab is hitting the carbon.
 

Bt Doctur

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

You claim to have a hot spark from thre ing. coil, so next step would be a spark board or insert a 1/4 bolt into each plug wire, hold 3/8 of a inch from a good ground and look for spark.
What looks a bit funny is the rather large battery cable going to the slave solenoid??????
 

darkarcher

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

WOW!! Thanks for all the recent help. I feel like I am actually learning and making progress.

I ordered the distributor cap and rotor this morning should be in tomorrow. In the mean time I stopped by the local autozone and picked up an adjustable ignition spark testor and a plug wire that fit the distributor cap. PIC HERE.

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Not a $50.00 spark board but I believe it was good enough for what I needed.

I found a good ground on the engine and first plugged the coil wire into the tester. The tester was adjustable from 10k to 40k. I started on 30k ( the picture shows the tester on 10k, 30k is about 1/2 to 5/8 gap ) because of what Don S. said and because the rating on the back stated that was within the range for Ford engines. The blue spark was clear and had a crisp, rapid snap to it. Even one last pop (to grow on I guess) after the switch was released.

Now on to the spark wire leads. I started again at 30K and position one on the cap. Nothing. Position 2, nothing again same thing for 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. I adjusted the tester to the 20K position 1 got 2 yellow pops and then quit. they were certainly spaced apart differently than the quick pops of the coil wire, but they were also noticeably weaker and then non existent. 2 - 8 was the exact same with the exception of 6 which still got nothing.

I then adjusted down to the 10K, here each lead got spark, yellow and it seemed that after 2 or 3 sparks they just quit sparking all together.

Pic of the set up.

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New distributor cap and rotor should be installed tomorrow afternoon.

If any of this leads to new ideas or something other than the distributor please post.

My parts catalog and ignition manual for my boat should be here in a day or so. I hope I won't need them for the rest of the summer.

THANKS AGAIN!!!!!
 

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IVAZ

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

The rotor has to spin...otherwise the spark pickup would not be able to detect anything and there would be no spark from the coil.

Good point bruce. Getting intermittent weak spark to some plugs would also suggest its spinning.
 

darkarcher

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

Distritbutor Cap and Rotor did the trick.

Took her out for a spin around the lake last night.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP THAT WAS GIVEN.

This thread has helped me learn a lot about my boat.

Again THANK!!
 

MikDee

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I was wondering, what else could it be? Glad you got it going! Enjoy! :D
 

darkarcher

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

Out of business again. :(

this is getting really frustrating.

After replacing the Distributor cap the boat ran fine, for about an hour or 2. Then it started wanting to die at take off. Then it did die at take off. Still would crank right backup. Seems to run better at close to wide open. Seemed to have a slight miss but very intermittent.

Parked it yesterday evening. Went out this morning and cranked it, she fired right up. Shut her down and left her all morning. Came back this afternoon to take her out of the water and hit the key she fired right up ran for about 2 full seconds at idle, died and now I can't get her to start at all.

I haven't broken out the test equipment yet to start testing again, but it seems to be a spark issue again.

Do these symptoms make sense to anyone???
 

darkarcher

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Re: OMC 351 King Cobra

Purchased rotor and distibutor cap from boat shop locally that stocks a lot of parts for older OMC.

would having the wrong rotor damage the distributor cap?

could I remove it and be able to tell?


I am going to head back over there in an hour or so and give it a try and take my spark test again.
 
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