outdrive woes pt II

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Well I am putting the drive back on .. all is lined up with my merc alignment bar. I can get it to where the studs are 1/3 or the way trhough the holes on the outdrive but no further. Is there some secret to this. Last time I pulled the drive it kinda just fell together on the way back on. Any insight would be apreciated . Also, I am putting an alpha 1 drive on instead of a merc 260 will that be a problem everything looks the same...
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Well

Everything has to be in FORWARD gear

I use the prop to keep pressure on the drive so it does not pop into neutral and as you slide it in i find you have to push on the prop a bit to turn the driveshaft to lineup with the coupling

You also have to watch the shift slide


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Re: outdrive woes pt II

If you had everything in forward, it may be nothing more than the orings on the shaft preventing you from pushing it on. Usually an easy kick with your foot will encourage it to slide past an oring with some oil on it.
You also need to make sure you don't have a lot of grease inside the coupler or on the front of the ujoint shaft. That will hydro lock it in a heart beat.
 
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I think I may not have had the OD in fwd. So I will fix this tommorrow .... I have so much lube on this thing it s crazy... I will check the od gear tommorrow thanks agianI will be in the water very soon and will post some vids
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Ayuh,.....

I use a bungee cord wrapped around the cav-plate to hold tension on the prop, to keep it in Forward.......
If you release the tension for just a second,.... It'll pop into Neutral......
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Hey, thanks for the tip, that will help a bunch!
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

On my first drive install, I had the throttle/shift lever all the way forward, but the warm-up button was depressed. Hence it was still in neutral. :)
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

imported_John_S said:
On my first drive install, I had the throttle/shift lever all the way forward, but the warm-up button was depressed. Hence it was still in neutral. :)
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I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who has done this.
It's some sort of reflex I have, if it's not running I don't even notice that I'm pushing the button in.
 
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So I got it all in fwd. heres the problem. My boat is 21 ft my trailer is a bit longer. So the outdrive when I attempt to put it on the foot hits the last support beam of the trailer. I could however take the lower unit off and put it on that way... Would this be ok? I need the lower clearance to get the outdrive to lay flush with the mount. The last time I did this my boat was sitting further back on my trailer. I tried hooking a come along to my truck and oulling the boat back ... But I am sure something bad was going to come of that. So the question is. I am replacing the impeller any ways. Can I seperate the lower and upper houses. And put the upper on the boat first then bolt in the lower?
 
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Can I seperate the lower and upper houses. And put the upper on the boat first then bolt in the lower?
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Ayuh,....... No reason why Not........
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Yup, but make sure you use new gaskets & seals......;)
Although if you have it that close it should go on anyway, I would do like Don & Bondo say.....
Sometimes you need to turn the prop ccw to fully engage the splines while putting pressure with your shoulder......
Sometimes you need the "mule kick" to get ot past the orings....
No grease on the input shaft end & make sure there is not gobs of it in the coupler itself....
Keep in mind that it may be difficult to put the upper on by itself with no way to turn the input shaft since you won't have the propeller to turn....
I'd still see if you can get it to go on as is....
The little bit of gap between the drive & bell housing should be able to be overcome by tilting the drive up slightly.....
& the impeller job & putting the upper & lower are much easier when done on the bench, imho....​
 
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ok so I go the five 5/8s bolts and and the drive is coming apart but the zinc bold seems to be missing I know it is supposed to be an allen head but I can't find it .... what am i missing what size allen is it?
 
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nevermind. I can head don s already with the ... are you using the manual speech. I open up the manual my phone and whaddya know ... i am special :O0
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II (updated w/ pics)

ok well below is pictures of as far as I can get the outdrive on and (just so you belive me about it being aligned I pictured my alignment bar) I have taken a board and put it on the outdrive to hammer it in to no avail. I have given it several prescribed mule, drop, round house and scissor kicks. And it wont budge. Last time I put the outdrive on it would not go all the way in so used a hammer and then it went. The shifttab and reciver are lined up and it is in forward... any ideas
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Yes

You need to use the prop and push it in the direction that is holding it in gear enough to turn the driveshaft so it lines up the splines withe coupler



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Re: outdrive woes pt II

Ayuh,....
By the looks of the picture, Tom is Right,...
Looks to be about how deep it goes into the coupler....

It might be Easier to turn the motor over with a socket on the crank.....
'ell,..... Bump the Starter.....
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

I would bet he is up against the orings, the splines should already be engaged by the time you get it that far on.
Hopefully the orings on the input shaft had some oil on them, then it sometimes takes a bump with the foot to get it started into the gimbal bearing.
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

ugh.... swim platforms suck.....
grab ahold of the prop and pull it counterclockwise (as facing the prop) while you push.
 
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Re: outdrive woes pt II

yes the swim plat for does suck. And don S. the amount of lube on the shaft and orings is enough to film 73 pornos
 
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