particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

BF

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I was thinking about OB's that I (or family) has owned (we seem to be stuck in the 70's / 80's) and realized that there are some particular models that I just don't like, even though I have no particular bias against the manufacturer...<br /><br />For example, I don't think I'd ever buy an old Merc 40 hp (402 model series)... When I was a kid, my uncle had one and when it did run OK, it was barely up to the task being asked of it (pushing a 15' fiberglass). True the rig was underpowered by my standards now, but I remember it taking a long plow (minutes) before we'd get on plane. Also, as a kid I remember it seeming that those motors often seemed to have a hard time pulling up anybody, even on 2 ski's. So, in my mind anyway, I think "sucked out" when I think of them... In contrast we had a 15' glass trihull with 40 evinrude 'ski twin' and as kids we basically ski'd the motor to death (it would pull doubles etc). Eventually upgraded to a brand new ~81 60hp Johnson. (2 cylinder) at the time it seemed FAST!<br /><br />The 70's or 80's versions of Merc 65/70 hp seemed to often be doggy to me (although we never had one)... I wonder now whether that's because the 3 cyl 70 hp OMC's were so strong in comparison (?). I've also wondered wether Merc dealers in these parts maybe had a tendancy to under power the rigs they sold, thereby giving Merc an undeservered black eye with poor performing package deals (?).<br /><br />Don't read this as merc bashing (I have a V6 150... had it for about 15 years great motor!). I've also had 9.8 hp in the past (also great)... I've never owned a 50 hp (4cyl) merc or the 80 hp (4 cyl) variety (70's-80's vintage) but those both have always seemed like strong runners to me, and I wouldn't mind owning either.<br /><br />All my current "putt putt" sized motors (70's -80's era up to 15 hp) are OMC. I don't really have a strong preference for OMC in motors this size, (I like mine, but see nothing wrong with similar mercs/yamahas etc) but it is nice to have the tanks/hoses be compatible. So, when I look for a 20-30hp to put on my alumunim 16', my first choice would be OMC.<br /><br />Anyway, I was just wondering whether there was any concensus about what are considered the "least desirable" models from any particular manufacturers? Or maybe a bad experience with one particular motor has turned you off that model for good?<br /><br />Thoughts?<br /><br />Brent
 

catfish1

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Re: particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

i dont really like a mercury, because every one "i" had was cold blooded (hard to start). <br />i'll never own another force, i had a bad experience with one! and since i got this evinrude, i just cant say enough!<br />had a gamefisher 3hp that was a pretty good little motor!
 

BF

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Re: particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

middleground... very funny that you say Eska!! My dad bought a brand new 7.5hp Eska from sears in about '74 or so. Was the first motor our family had that could get our 12' aluminum boat up on plane (was old 3 hp McCullough before that).<br /><br />The Eska was a great motor (to us). We did a lot of hours trolling with that motor. I don't remember it ever giving a problem, except its built in tank running out of gas at the most inopportune times (rough water, spilling gas all over). Can't blame it for that though.<br /><br />Was eventually replaced with a used 9.9 Merc (same boat). Merc was mucho better (water cooled & had reverse! and felt like our first "real" outboard), but the Eska sure beat endless pulling of the McCullough's starter rope!! <br /><br />Haven't thought of that little motor for a looong time. There, now you've heard a fond memory of an Eska!<br /><br />Brent
 
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BF,<br /><br />I've never been much of a Merc. fan, yet I know they make fine products. I did own a 50 hp. 4 cyl. like you asked about. It was a '79' I believe.<br /><br />It wasn't huge on power, but it idled like a dream. That small displacement with four cylinders made it exceptionally smooth. Saltwater finally killed it.<br /><br />I have always liked the OMC crossflow V-4's-'73' and newer. They came in a variety of flavors from 85 hp. to 140. The lower hp. versions, were my favorites: 85, 90, GT100, 110, 112.<br /><br />All of my "kickers" have always been OMC.
 

nburford

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Re: particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

It's funny how a few experiences can form our opinions. Many years ago when I went to buy a used OB in the 25-40 hp range, I went with Johnnyrude. You could not find a single Merc on a commercial boat anywhere, and folks always said they weren't reliable enough for commercial service. That probably wasn't true then and probably isn't now. <br />My cousin had a 7hp Eska that he called "the quitter" because it died on him so many times. I recall it having one large cylinder, and being temperamental as all heck.
 

tmac58star

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Re: particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

I am partial to these: Martin, Champion, Neptune, 40's Mercs, Sea Kings Scotts and Bendix/Lauson; but don't know how many out there will recognize them. The older the iron, the faster and longer they run.
 

Kiwi

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Re: particular models you're not fond of? ramblings!

I recognise the Champion Timster ! I have a 1956 Champion Pacemaker 16hp. Doubt there are many in this country. It still runs and one of these days I'll finish restoring it. Sure is a heavy little beast though. My favourite outboard would have to be the 1973 65hp Evinrude I owned some years back.<br /><br />Cheers<br />Mike
 
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