Presidential address on Irag

[Ralph 123]

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You don't survive HBS w/o being smart. There is a forced curve and about 5% - 10% of every section flunks out. Notable flunkies are people like Ed DeCastro founder, President and CEO of DG.<br /><br />If you think Bush is dumb or stupid you got your head up your butt.

 

[NOSLEEP]

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You may not need to be smart,but You need to surround yourself with smart people.I think he<br />has it figured out. <br />Thanks ODD & SCO

 

[Ralph 123]

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It's impossible to become President w/o being smart. Nobody survives and wins that process who isn't 6 sigma ahead of the crowd.<br /><br />This is an old left tactic used extensively during RRs admin - it didn't work then and it won't work now.<br /><br />These people think they are philosopher gods or something and are so smart they should rule the world and tell everybody what to do and how to do it. Well the PGs of the USSR failed badly and so will ours.<br /><br />They always revert to these sorts of arguments when they are losing on the facts. "Ya, well he's stupid...Blah, blah, bloody blah!"

 

[snapperbait]

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OBJECTIVE: Remove Saddam and his regime from power, and restore Iraq to a self-governing democracy. This is two parts.... The flaw lies in the second part...<br /><br />Buy all means, YES... Remove Saddam and his regime from power... No argument here...<br /><br />Problem lies in restoring Iraq to a self-governing democracy... I'm sorry folks.. This will probably never happen, at least in the way most of you invision an honest "Iraqi democratic government".... At the very least it will take generations....<br /><br /> Re-education of the Iraqi is the problem... The pedominately muslim religious views of the Iraqi's are very strong... It's those particularly strong in nature, but weak minded views that don't lend themselves well to forming a democratic society, in my opinion... It's those views which we will have to overcome.... Thats where the problem lies...<br /><br />My Example of re-educating an Iraqi: It'll be like me trying to pound my athiest views into the brains of a hard headed person, the likes 12Footer or Soul Winner....(by hard headed, I mean that as a compliment) <br /><br /> Understand now why the Iraqi society will simply fall into the hands of a religious wacko the likes of Iatola Khomeni (a man of god) or smoeone worse, who claims to have all the answers ?

 

[Ralph 123]

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SB, does that mean we shouldn;t even try? "No It's too hard. It won't work. The sky is falling..."<br /><br />Hey let's do nothing. Let's just wait util we make NY, Boston, SF, La, Chicago, etc. Uninhabitable due to an attack using WMDs. Yes, I see it, that is a much better solution to our problems.<br /><br />Maybe, just maybe, if Clinton hadn't taken the selfish path of least resistance there would never have been a 911.

 

[oddjob]

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wvit100<br /><br />I find the quote on lots of Bush hate web sites, but not the entire article. I guess the full text puts it into proper context. Something not important to lib Bush haters. Also, some of your lib sites state that it was Bush that said that. <br />Perhaps they[Watts and Bush?] were referring to past history[clinton,carter,etc.] Nice try..but go back to the well.....I couldn't find it in goggle.<br /><br />Find the whole speach...I dare you! <br /><br />Everybody, Search this quote on the net and view the Bush hate web sites were wvit100,PW,etc. get this stuff,ha,ha

 

[snapperbait]

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No.... Lets really do something...<br /><br /> My opinion, Remove entire Middle east from the face of the earth... Kill em' all and forgit those miserable bassturds ever existed... The rest of the world just might take us seriously then.........

 

[12Footer]

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No offense taken on the folowing statement;<br />"My Example of re-educating an Iraqi: It'll be like me trying to pound my athiest views into the brains of a hard headed person, the likes 12Footer or Soul Winner....(by hard headed, I mean that as a compliment) "<br /><br />It's simply a matter of resolve. To me, there are only two roads a person can take in life. The good road (most of which is uphill in the snow), and the bad road (the path of least resistance).<br />I'm just hard-headed like that. :}<br /><br />As for the Iraqis, they are in general, extremely intelegent and extremely educated. They'll do fine once the fear of reprisal has been stamped-out for good, and thier country is brought into the world economy under it's own steam. These people have been thru hell..Just like the Germans, Japanese, Jews, and Russians were durring the early 40's. It doesn't mean they must be sentanced to eternal hell.

 

[Ralph 123]

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Well, I am not for murdering innocent people. I only want to kill our enemies and let the rest live with us in peace and prosperity. That's it. Very simple actually.<br /><br />It is just too bad the Arabs hate the Jews so much they are willing to make America their enemy.

 

[12Footer]

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Yes it is very simple. Hopefully, this is what will continue until the objective is met.<br />Speaking of Jews and Palestinians... We can expect the same thing from Iraq, unless we leave it self-reliant.<br />It's going to be a long,long, costly objective.<br />So was WWI, WWII, Nam, Korea,ect.<br />We made our stand..let's stand fast,folks.

 

[wvit100]

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Oddjob, I am a registered Republican and have been since I registered to vote when I was probably around 25. My father, a marine, was and still is a registered Republican. I have the American flag that my uncle, a marine, was buried under hanging on the wall in my office. Why do you automatically label anyone who disagrees with Bush's actions a liberal, must be some knee-jerk reaction from listening to all those hours of Rush. What I see happening to the Republican party lately makes me want to hang my head in shame. The Republicans were supposed to be the ones for peoples rights, smaller government, less government spending, etc. I don't see this administration is for any of those things. If you can see how any of this administrations policys are achieving any of the republican goals then you should enlighten me.

 

[SCO]

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I'm not happy with everything about GW. In fact I'm plum worried about some of it. The Middle East issue trumps all though. It is amazing how the mainstream press rentlessly attacks any and every issue of this Presidency. Have to agree, the problem with the republicans lately is that they are acting more like democrats. The democrats on the other hand are going completely whacky to the left fringes. Who knows what any of them really thinks(Leiberman is not as bad though). Seems that all their positions and stances are pure political calculation. Might as well listen to a robot.

 

[wvit100]

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How can the press do anything but report what is going on. Record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, a war with no end in sight, etc. What do you see to report on that this administration has done that has helped this country?

 

[SCO]

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It's in the spin and exaggeraion and worried expression by the professional news readers. I know thats not real solid a proof, just my perception.<br /><br />Good things:<br />I don't think the economy is GW's fault, and we have to spend this money. We stand to gain and have gained a tremendous amount of power and influence that will benefit us greatly and secure the safety of our and other countries to allow our economy to florish. Without that, nothing else matters.

 

[NOSLEEP]

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What do you see to report on that this administration<br />has done that has helped this country. That <br />question isn't even worth a response.<br />You should go back and delete it.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

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Right wing Conservatives like to use the word "liberal" like it is some kind of curse word. That is usually followed by unpatriotic or un-American.<br /><br />Since I am neither it doesn't really affect me.<br />And If I were a liberal, Why should I be concerned about the rantings of a one-track ditto head. <br /><br />There is a lot of stupidity and ignorance across the political spectrum. The closer you get to the right or left edges, the rants become more banal and insipid. But believe me, we need a idiot like Hillary Clinton just as much as we need an idiot like Tom Delay. These people on the fringes of mainstream thinking force moderates to access their own agendas and ideas.

 

[oddjob]

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vwit100,<br /><br />God bless your uncle. I got some family too.<br /><br />GW is not the one growing the government, its congress, and I wish he would put an end to it as well. I'm not happy about that. Maybe hes picking and choosing his battles carefully and taking away the lib agenda. But we weren't talking about that were we?<br /><br />The lib label goes to all who bash his foreign policy. Many who supported clinton in 1998 when he also stated what Bush stated in his address about WMDs in Iraq and the danger of the free world Saddam represents. see http//www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/<br /><br />Today clinton says Bush is wrong for doing what he said should be done in 98!<br /><br />Also, you have yet to answer my question about the JC Watts quote... I'm still waiting. I backed up my comment/ point just now, whats your problem.<br /><br />If you really are a REP. then I question your motives in this post because it doesnt add up.

 

[Ralph 123]

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The number one objective of any party should be to provide for the security of the nation. Everthing else takes a back seat until that objective is met.<br /><br />Liberal is what Liberal does.<br /><br />wvit100. if you make like $40K a year the Liberals think you are rich.<br /><br />If this admin has to pander a little to get re-elected I am willing to pay that price ONLY if we get 4 years of the gloves off.

 

[oddjob]

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How can the press do anything but report what is going on. Record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, a war with no end in sight, etc. What do you see to report on that this administration has done that has helped this country?

As Rush would point out your a seminar poster <br /><br />or a troll as JB would put it. <br /><br />Still waiting for JC watts complete quote? Whats the matter Hillary got your tongue?

 

[oddjob]

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See you guys after supper...buy!