Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

GOB

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I bought this engine new in 2009 and have about 20 hours on it. It has run perfectly until recently. When it's in nuteral the prop continues to turn and sometimes it will not go in reverse.

Any help would be appreciated.

John
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

Take it to a dealer and have them show you how to shift it(not a crack on you) or have them adjust it.
 

GOB

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

I don't take it as a slight at all but I'm very well aware after taking the lid to the motor off you can see what is going on...the mechanics are quite simple......so I know where forward-neutral-reverse are and how to shift them into the correct position. As I said in my original post when in neutral and I start the engine(which it must be in neutral to actually start the engine) the prop is rotating.

So the question is what could cause this????

Thanks.

John
 

dtj

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

I don't take it as a slight at all but I'm very well aware after taking the lid to the motor off you can see what is going on...the mechanics are quite simple......so I know where forward-neutral-reverse are and how to shift them into the correct position. As I said in my original post when in neutral and I start the engine(which it must be in neutral to actually start the engine) the prop is rotating.

So the question is what could cause this????




Thanks.

John


Shift linkage adjustment has most likely come loose, get service manual for proper component identification and re-adjustment procedure.............................Don
 

jrs_diesel

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

If the prop is spinning slowly in reverse, then it's fine. My 6 HP does the same thing in neutral. It's due to the drive shaft and prop shaft gears turning (the gear oil moving too) whenever the engine is running. Some of the motion is transferred to the prop shaft which causes the prop to turn.

Not shifting into gear is another issue altogether.
 

GOB

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

If the prop is spinning slowly in reverse, then it's fine. My 6 HP does the same thing in neutral. It's due to the drive shaft and prop shaft gears turning (the gear oil moving too) whenever the engine is running. Some of the motion is transferred to the prop shaft which causes the prop to turn.

Not shifting into gear is another issue altogether.

As I'm new to this I admit that I don't completley understand how this is supposed to work....but from what I understand if the gear is in neutral then the prop is not supposed to be rotating at all...."spinning slowly in reverse" is not fine.

This is how I damaged my prop at the boat launch thinking I was in neutral when the prop was supposed to be not rotating but it was.

I realize that I can take it to my local dealer but being recently layed-off from work I need to try and find a fix it myself if possible.


Any help would be appreciated.

John
 

pvanv

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

Both forward and reverse gears are always turning whenever the motor is running. That causes significant motion and turbulence of the gear oil. The prop shaft is either disengaged (neutral) or mechanically clutched into one or the other of the gears. Dues to the viscosity of the gear lube (and the wear of all the parts), it is possible for the prop to turn slightly and/or slowly when in neutral. That is the case for all motors of all brands of this size category. The phenomenon will vary with the viscosity of the gear lube (which can be affected by temperature -- cold makes the oil "thicker", and the effect will be greater), and it will vary with the wear of the clutch dog, clutch lugs on the gears, bearings and bushings in the LU.

There is no braking or "park" mechanism to "freeze" the prop in place when the motor is running in neutral on any of the small outboards of any brand. Neutral is just that -- freewheeling. Many small OB's will show some prop rotation in neutral. We see that all the time when running motors on "muffs". That should not be enough force to significantly damage a prop if it contacts the bottom of a boat launch ramp. Yes, it might scrape a little paint off the prop, if someone is careless, and allows the prop to contact something.

But... if the motor is in fact in gear, yes, that can (and usually will) hurt the prop when/if it strikes the bottom. It can also do a lot more damage, including tearing up gears and twisting the driveshaft. The prop is never supposed to touch the bottom at all -- even when the motor is not running -- because the weight of the motor itself pushing on a prop blade could damage it.

So... to diagnose the shifter linkage yourself, see if the prop freewheels in neutral, and is locked in gear when in forward and when in reverse. If it does, you are adjusted OK. If not, you can adjust the shifter linkage through the access hole in the exhaust housing. The coupler is accessed after removing the large rubber grommet that plugs off that hole. The brass coupler has a single 6mm bolt (with a 10mm head) that can be unlocked to allow the shift rod and cam rod to be slid into the correct adjustment with each other. The complete information is in the factory service manual, available from any dealer, including me.

You mentioned that you sometimes could not shift into reverse. Keep in mind that the motor must be idling in order to shift. If the motor is not running, or if the RPM is too high, you may not be able to shift.
 

GOB

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Re: Problem With 2008 6HP Nissan 4 Stroke

Paul,

Thank you very much for your informative reply. I`ll check if the prop is free-wheeling while in neutral as well as change the gear lube as we did have a more than usual colder winter here in Vancouver.

Thanks again.

John
 
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