Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

SuperNova

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

I did this same conversion on a '93 chevy pickup and we had to replace the EPROM chip and the injectors. The flow rate on the injectors is different and during the first minute of running the ECM uses a open loop base map which is calibrated for the 305-not enough fuel for the 350- once it hits closed loop the O2 sensors do their job and modify the fuel delivery to accomodate the larger displacement engine. Even when you swap in the EPROM chip, it is calibrated for the 350 sized injectors and you will still have the same problem, maybe a bit less, but it will still be there. Even in closed loop the smaller injectors force the fuel trim to add fuel so the engine runs stochiometric(14.7-1) which will give you less room for the ECm to adjust fuel for different atmospheric conditions. Also, at some point the injectors won't flow quite enough fuel (think heavy load or steep grade), the engine will lean knock, you won't hear it, but the knock sensor will--it'll retard the timing and you'll be complaining about poor power and poor fuel mileage. The trans will be up and downshifting to keep the engine in power and wear itself out--so on and so on. We took some time to figure it all out, too. And we talked to the "experts" all of whom were wrong. But who knows, maybe it'll be different for you.

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180shabah

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

SuperNova is right in this one. The injectors and PROM are a "matched set". While going from 305 to 350 is not a big jump in displacement, there is a HUGE difference in the airflow of these two engines. Your ECM doesn't "know" that you are running the larger engine. When it is cold - it gets "X" amount of fuel. After it warms up and the O2 sensor starts working you get "X+" fuel to compensate for the lean condition.
 

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

Exactly what I was tryn to post with all the tech behind it,when it got lost in cyber space change chip you have to change injectors also
 

ezmobee

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

Thanks guys. I have ordered a performance EPROM for a 350 and when it arrives I'll go get some new injectors. This really should do the trick because when it is in closed loop it runs pretty close to perfect.
 

Marc III

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

Not to highjack this thread, but have I have the same issue with my 87 Silverado. Was 305 now 350. The TBI was reused, maybe the heads too (I hope not). I was told the chip was changed. The 02 sensor has had the wire jerked from it and the CEL is coming on intermittently. In the current default mode, is it getting more or less fuel than it would if it were fixed?

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I think SuperNova answered that one already. Can the injectors be modified or drilled oversize? How can I tell if they've been changed already? Anybody priced new ones?
 

ezmobee

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

UPDATE!!!! I got my new EPROM today from an eBay seller who claims to have performace tuned it (I don't really care) and I went and got my the correct fuel injectors. They were a little trickier to install than I thought but not too bad. My truck is running AWESOME!!! Thanks so much for all the advice (especially SuperNova). It idles beautifully and the acceleration is fantastic. Hopefully the black cloud that has been surrounding me and everything I own with an engine is beginning to lift :)
 

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

You're welcome ezmobee. I'm happy it worked out for you and glad I could be of assistance.
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180shabah

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Re: Question for Chevy V8 Engine gurus

The TBI are pretty basic efi systems and don't have the ability to compensate for big changes.

Glad you got the right combination parts for a happy ending ;)
 
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