RPM question?

mnm99

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Did anybody factor in the air density/temp aka bang for the buck at dawn vs later in the day. Does matter!


Thanks, I plan to give it a go at the early morning hours again. I also got my hands on another tach just to make sure. I'll keep you posted.
 

mnm99

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I have another update.I went out again in flat calm water. Air was similar to the first test. Here's how I did it...Got on plane and ran at 3500-3600rpm, used trim tabs and Outdrive trim for max speed. At that point I'm around 27-28 mph. Went to WOT and did the same trim tabs ect...My max RPM I could get was 4200-4250 !!!! I don't get it. Would putting the dual 4 blades on just be too much for the 260hp engine? Maybe it Is just maxed out with the weight and torque it could produce? I'm starting to think about the 4x3 setup now. I wounder How a set of 22's in that configuration would do.
 

Texasmark

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One way to "have you cake and eat it too" is porting of the prop. Porting is explained on several prop mfgr's. sites but basically it allows a small amount of exhaust gasses to exit over the prop blades causing the density of the water to decrease. This allows the engine to rev faster where it is under the most stress (the hole shot) and since hp is (rpm x torque)/5252 you can develop your hp faster and get out of the hole faster.

Down side is that a properly setup hole system will allow the engine to rev about 1k rpm over normal (give or take) until the boat gets up and onto plane developing enough speed to close the holes. If you like to dilly dally just on plane in a cruising mode on a Sunday afternoon sort of thing, you won't seal the holes off and will be running unnecessary rpm for a given speed. Ported props were designed for bass boats with big heavy sterns, usually a fair amount of dead rise at the stern (doesn't plane out as easily as a flat bottom at the stern) and "balls to the wall" once clearing the hole shot.

On what you expected and got, I'm not a prop design engineer, but it's obvious that different companies play with different things in the design of their props for some added benefit. Even if you are using the same series of prop from the same mfgr. you can get variances in performance other than what you are expecting using the 150-200 rpm per inch rule.

Last you have to throw in the boat's effect. With speed and trim setting changes, the load on the props change, so by varying pitch the boat responds differently for a given rpm and part of your problem is probably not all prop related.....the boat's effect on it is changing too.

HTH,
Mark
 

alldodge

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If you were running a B1 with a single prop then dropping two degrees of pitch with a 4 blade would be in a the ball park. A 22 with a cup is actually closer to a 23 pitch then a 22, this type of prop also will reduce bite in reverse. B3 drives bite much better then a single prop, using 4 blades increases the bite and also the load to turn the props. I'm thinking you may need to go to 20's
 
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