Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

jarrod1995

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To start with the boat is coming back to life after a some young men trying just to have fun didnt keep it the way their grandfather did. Long story short portside of the engine started burning the rubber boot after about 30minutes of running. Shut her down let it cool limped home and never got hot again as long as we stayed below 2000 rpms. Today I took off the boot and there is no flapper valve on that side at all. I raised the drive to see if it was blocked water flows out great.

Could my exhaust manifold or riser going bad causing the heat right in that area.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Could my exhaust manifold or riser going bad causing the heat right in that area.

Howdy,


Most likely, you have a failed raw water impeller. That rubber MUST have water flowing with the exhaust at all time to keep from burning. If the impeller is defective, or the raw water circuit is plugged (which WILL destroy the impeller) the rubber parts in the exhaust system will burn up in minutes.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Brand spanking new, first time out, had silicon wipe in there to keep it from running dry on the first turn up. temp never gets over 180d only till it gets hot and the rubber started stinking. Stbd side never got hot at all, you cant hold your hand to it but isnt a quick burn like port side. At low rpm not hot at all either side.
 

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Brand spanking new, first time out, had silicon wipe in there to keep it from running dry on the first turn up. temp never gets over 180d only till it gets hot and the rubber started stinking. Stbd side never got hot at all, you cant hold your hand to it but isnt a quick burn like port side. At low rpm not hot at all either side.

Ayuh,.... Check the water flows, as to where it's got water, 'n where it don't,...

Could be a plugged riser on that side,...
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Will it hurt the motor to run with that boot off. Just to see how much water is coming out.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

One other thing is it bad that flapper is gone. Water flows out the exhaust good as far as I can tell. As fast as the hose puts it in if falls out.
 

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Will it hurt the motor to run with that boot off. Just to see how much water is coming out.

Won't hurt a thing.

You need to ensure that you have significant water flow. ALL the water from the raw water pump flows through the manifolds (some is bypassed through the block as needed & throttled by the t-stat but it all eventually goes out thru the manifolds & risers)


The amount is dependent on engine RPM and any other restrictions......The impeller is a positive displacement type pump so it moves a fair amount of water at high RPM. If you have blockage somewhere downstream of the pump (oil cooler, PS cooler, T-stat etc) you will get less (or NO) flow and the impeller won't last long......if it's low enough, the engine will over heat at high power settings, and any other components cooled by water may overheat.....

By the way, that missing flapper might be at the bottom of the y-tube......
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

^^^^What the gentleman above said ^^^^^. In addition to that, you might want to start from the inlet from the transom and take each connection loose one at a time as you check for flow from component to component. If you have a problem at an oil cooler or a hose on the way to the engine or delivery to the manifolds, you will know where.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

For the last two posts, first thing i noticed today when I started checking things is the hose coming out of the outdrive, first place it goes is power stearing cooler, very tight bend, I get good water at the thermostat housing just thought that was pretty tight and the hose is actually somewhat flat in the middle.


I ran the boat with the boot off on the burnt side, has anyone else ever ran the motor with the boos off, wow fumes will kill you, how much water should come out of the manifold. Nothing but a fine mist for the most part, but rev the motor and it seems to go away almost. Doesn't seem to run very well with the boot off either, might should have covered the coil. Other than that doesn't seem like alot of water. Ill try it with the stbd side off and see if more water comes out on that side next.
 

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how much water should come out of the manifold. Nothing but a fine mist for the most part, but rev the motor and it seems to go away almost. Doesn't seem to run very well with the boot off either, might should have covered the coil. Other than that doesn't seem like alot of water. Ill try it with the stbd side off and see if more water comes out on that side next.

There should be a LOT of water. Disconnect the hose from the transom, start the engine and run it (briefly) with hose disconnected.

There should be a LOT of flow. Whatever amount of water comes out of that hose (assuming a good impeller, and no restrictions up to that point) should be split between the 2 risers coming out with the exhaust when you remove the rubber couplings.


Look at it this way: Rubber and other NON-metal parts will burn with the heat of the exhaust. When you add water to the exhaust, it keeps the temp of the "mixture" below 212*F (100*C) or so.


You clearly have a restriction/blockage someplace in the raw water circuit.

If your manifolds and/or risers are clogged(with rust) you MUST replace them. (they cannot be safely "cleaned")

If only one side is clogged, I would still replace both.

ALL the raw water flow from the raw-pump, (eventually) goes through and exits out the exhaust manifolds AND risers. There's usually enough "flow" such that you can put your hand on them (and not get "burned') while the engine is running It should be approximately equal on both sides......but it's not uncommon for one side to be a little warmer than the other.......
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

For the last two posts, first thing i noticed today when I started checking things is the hose coming out of the outdrive, first place it goes is power stearing cooler, very tight bend, I get good water at the thermostat housing just thought that was pretty tight and the hose is actually somewhat flat in the middle.


I ran the boat with the boot off on the burnt side, has anyone else ever ran the motor with the boos off, wow fumes will kill you, how much water should come out of the manifold. Nothing but a fine mist for the most part, but rev the motor and it seems to go away almost. Doesn't seem to run very well with the boot off either, might should have covered the coil. Other than that doesn't seem like alot of water. Ill try it with the stbd side off and see if more water comes out on that side next.

Ayuh,.... Pull the Riser off the Manifold,... Sounds like it's plugged darn near solid...
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Well it looks like I needed an excuse to replace them anyway, are the GLM aftermarket manifolds good, I can find no good or bad about them, thanks for time in answering my posts, its been a great help bringing this thing back to life. If I didnt like the hull so much I thing I would have been done by now. Again thanks.
 

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Well it looks like I needed an excuse to replace them anyway, are the GLM aftermarket manifolds good, I can find no good or bad about them, thanks for time in answering my posts, its been a great help bringing this thing back to life. If I didnt like the hull so much I thing I would have been done by now. Again thanks.

Ayuh,.... I bought a set,... Had to re-machine the machined surfaces to flatten 'em.....

Coulda lost my motor, if I hadn't caught it...


Like I said, Pull the risers, 'n See what's up...
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Bond-o here you go, I don't even need you to tell me, Wow.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Bond-o here you go, I don't even need you to tell me, Wow.


"Wow" is right!! Keep those pictures to post when someone asks how far (is TOO FAR!!!) you can go with a set of manifolds and risers!!

Now, if that's a raw water cooled engine consider how "clogged" or corroded your block, intake manifold and (circulating) water pump could be.........:rolleyes:.................


Just saying.........
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

Water pump is new, everything under the Thermostat area is cleaned, all the hoses flow great, intake manifold area inside looked good when it was off, powersteering cooler flows great, exuast tude flows great with the water hose. Ill take a picture of the engine ports when I take the manifold off. All good things to think about, but thanks for bringing it up, soon as it came off I was thinking oh boy Im in trouble now. We will see.
 

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Re: Rubber Exhaust tube burnt up

All off and new ones on the way. I rinsed out the port manifold, the one where the problem started, but both risers are almost plugged.

Just a side question, when you put your new ones on, is there any coatings you can dip them in ahead of time, like you can treat old gas tanks on motorcycles to stop corrosion.
 

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Just a side question, when you put your new ones on, is there any coatings you can dip them in ahead of time,

Nope,.... Nothin' that won't fall off, 'n clog things up even Sooner...
 
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