POINTER94
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Re: Rummy vs the Generals
What an interesting thread. I called out Clinton for gutting the military in a previous thread and the apologists jumped to support his non-legacy. Unfortunately thats exactly what he did. Gutted the military, intellegence community, and national security. Bush hasn't done much better but has the benefit of a war to move things forward. 18R pointed to 17 generals who quit because Clinton was gutting the military, (I know it never happened) but where was the alphabet media digging them up for news specials, and public retritbution?<br /><br />Now I hear there is NO WAY for a military victory in Iraq. We took almost all of europe and we can't take Iraq? What we can't do is take it under the freak show media's version of a bloodless war. Burn, blow up, quarantine, catalog, thin out the enemy, level cities like Faluja to the ground, curfews, land mines, phone taps, surveilance of any and all suspected terrorists, use of interrogation that might include abusing underwear, black ops into Iran, Seria, and all other sympathetic countries. <br />Win the war, put it in the hands of warriors and this thing is over in a year. Left to the liberal press, liberals, and haters of the US and this is what we got. Defeatism. Smells like weakness? War sucks, but when used, it should be left to its own devices. I believe that the US military could take this to conclusion without breaking a sweat. But I will have to say, someone might get a bruise.<br /><br />Please someone share with me the history changing, earth shattering policy achievments of Colin Powell? Yea, really miss his strong leadership. Gee how can we live without him. Good man worth being revered, but really a non-factor in policy. 50 years from now he might be an answer to some obscure trivia question.<br /><br />This whole situation is difficult based on what we are doing to ourselves. Get the job done, and stop worrying about how the NY Times is going to portray you. They are going to paint anyone who isn't a hater of the US as a failure, murderer, or facist. Don't worry about it and keep your eye on the ball. We spend way too much time worrying about what others are going to think about us and not enough about how to meet our goals.
What an interesting thread. I called out Clinton for gutting the military in a previous thread and the apologists jumped to support his non-legacy. Unfortunately thats exactly what he did. Gutted the military, intellegence community, and national security. Bush hasn't done much better but has the benefit of a war to move things forward. 18R pointed to 17 generals who quit because Clinton was gutting the military, (I know it never happened) but where was the alphabet media digging them up for news specials, and public retritbution?<br /><br />Now I hear there is NO WAY for a military victory in Iraq. We took almost all of europe and we can't take Iraq? What we can't do is take it under the freak show media's version of a bloodless war. Burn, blow up, quarantine, catalog, thin out the enemy, level cities like Faluja to the ground, curfews, land mines, phone taps, surveilance of any and all suspected terrorists, use of interrogation that might include abusing underwear, black ops into Iran, Seria, and all other sympathetic countries. <br />Win the war, put it in the hands of warriors and this thing is over in a year. Left to the liberal press, liberals, and haters of the US and this is what we got. Defeatism. Smells like weakness? War sucks, but when used, it should be left to its own devices. I believe that the US military could take this to conclusion without breaking a sweat. But I will have to say, someone might get a bruise.<br /><br />Please someone share with me the history changing, earth shattering policy achievments of Colin Powell? Yea, really miss his strong leadership. Gee how can we live without him. Good man worth being revered, but really a non-factor in policy. 50 years from now he might be an answer to some obscure trivia question.<br /><br />This whole situation is difficult based on what we are doing to ourselves. Get the job done, and stop worrying about how the NY Times is going to portray you. They are going to paint anyone who isn't a hater of the US as a failure, murderer, or facist. Don't worry about it and keep your eye on the ball. We spend way too much time worrying about what others are going to think about us and not enough about how to meet our goals.
