Saddam captured

POINTER94 · Dec 14, 2003

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Thank you, to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to eliminate this tyrant. Your effort was not in vain. Congradulations to those who have been tireless in their pursuit of this POS and have managed to find one of the leaders of terrorism in hiding in a hole the size of his future grave begging for his life like the coward that he is. Let's take a moment to reflect on the conviction and dedication that our President, Mr. George Bush, provided to make this moment possible. He is clearly the right man at the right time with the right vision. We all have reason to be proud of our country, our leaders, and the values that make this country great. Tommorrow the challenges continue, but for the moment we have the right to celebrate this great event. What to do with him? I would give him to the Isrealis for a year or so. What is left we can run through a military tribunal in Iraq. After they drag him through the streets, I would feed him to the animals. The man isn't worth a grave. As sadam was the poster boy for fear and terror his capture and "disappearance" will no doubt send a shock wave to the circles that terrorists run in. They will have to think twice about overt acts of terrorism. OBL we have a few extra good men and women available to track your sorry a$$ down. I recommend a hole in the ground just like your buddy. With the capture in hand, we should take a moment to celebrate, as this was one of our goals! We accomplished it... Tommorrow the mission continues but we should take a moment to reflect on why this country is so great, and those who make it that way.

Homerr · Dec 14, 2003

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Hey! Where's BagDad Bob in all of this denying Saddam's capture? H.

DJ · Dec 14, 2003

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THIS IS GOOD NEWS-NO DOUBT! As a human being, I pity him. Beaten, bedragled, living like the worst off of our dogs. He will have to face two judges. 1. The world, and it's court. 2. His Creator, and his court. As I said, I pity his soul.

plywoody · Dec 14, 2003

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12 footer--No country wants to install a tyrant-and Iraq is no different. But power corrupts, and most tyrants that have been instilled with the support of the citizens have become tryrants in order to maintain power. When Saddam ousted King Fassel when he first came to power, he went on a literacy campaign and improved the country initially. He changed over time to maintain and increase his power, and that is not typically done by doing good works, I am afraid. I have no idea what will happen, but just wanted to point out that the fundamentals in the country are exactly the same as they were, and world history is full of examples of exchanging one tyrant for yet another. That area generally has no history of rational debate and compromise, and it would be a bit of a shock to me that somehow it will radically change now Time will tell. If you consider that a negative, so be it. I prefer to call it realistic. And I am glad Saddam was captured, and it may indeed be some big turning point. time will tell.

TexSkeeter150 · Dec 14, 2003

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Plywoody said:

12 footer--No country wants to install a tyrant-and Iraq is no different. But power corrupts, and most tyrants that have been instilled with the support of the citizens have become tryrants in order to maintain power.

This is exactly why we are letting that country set up its own government, and one of the reasons why we are there. Plywoody said:

When Saddam ousted King Fassel when he first came to power, he went on a literacy campaign and improved the country initially. He changed over time to maintain and increase his power, and that is not typically done by doing good works, I am afraid.

Don't even try to insinuate that Saddam had even a millimeter of goodness to him. The man has always been a thug and murderer. One thing Saddam was though is smart. He is a study of history and immulated his regeme after, Stalin and Hitlers. They all got the confindence of the people, with schooling, building roads and jobs. Slowly after this, the people were sucked in and the rest is history. Plywoody, I don't understand you constant negativity, weather you belive it or not this is a huge victory for the USA and the new free Iraq. I would hate to live a life of "the glass is half empty" as you do. Always paranoind of our "conservative" govenment and constantly waiting for all your "doom and gloom" predictions to come true. Why can't you enjoy the economic turn around, the terrorist finaly on the run and a murdering dictators capture.

rwise · Dec 14, 2003

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I knew it, that GW I heard late at night Yeee Haaawwww!!!

oddjob · Dec 15, 2003

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PW and company....I'm celebrating....And if you all(libs) whine in unison...I will dance. Ha,ha,ha,ha.......etc.

EDIT for Homer below: Here you go Homer...

wvit100 Captain Member # 9246 posted December 15, 2003 05:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We captured Saddam and that's good. But what has that got to do with anything as far as our war on terror. Bush still had no justification for invading a foriegn country. There has been no proven link between Saddam and the terrorists that struck on 9/11. Saddam was one of a handful of dictators from around the world who are brutal to their people, I don't see us doing anything about the injustices in Africa. All I see coming from this war is bad feelings everwhere I turn. I still see the US spending billions of dollars every month that your children will have to pay back. ANYONE BUT BUSH IN 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 155 | From: charlotte, NC | Registered: May 2002 | IP: Logged

He,he,he......

Homerr · Dec 15, 2003

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If you start hearing the liberals and Demi's wine, please post them here. We can always use a good laugh! Howard Dean was already at it yesterday in some speech he was doing. He didn't once give credit to GW for the capture.

Knock-Knock ? Can Saddam come out and play?

H.

POINTER94 · Dec 15, 2003

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Plywoody, You are absolutely right. And for the reasons you pointed out, we should take every measure to keep the UN out. They have no record of success, unlike the United States. A reconstruction requires strong leadership, not for personal gain, but for the betterment of the world and the Iraqi people to build from the ashes. (Just another reason to re-elect GW) Do we need another reason to elect moral and ethical men and women? Has France, Germany, Italy, Russia, ever repaid us for the expenses incurred to the United States under the Marshall Plan? Why are they hesitant to forgive perhaps illegal dealings (debt) to Iraq? Greed? Talk to Martha Stewart what happens when you fly with the crows. Back biting and political components will ensure a failure in Iraq, and it seems that this is the goal of several of our (allies?). We need to step to the plate and put our political capital and moral leadership in play. The UN has no such reserves and no history of making unpopular decisions for a positive gain. Is there anyone in the world with a track record that even approaches the United States's? It is alway preferable to go with a good plan today, than a great plan tommorrow. Did you see those terribly unhappy people dancing in the streets after the capture? I didn't even see the special police standing around with machine guns picking out the dance steps..... A moral and motivated United States in unstoppable when we put our minds and resources to it. As long as the UN stays out, I believe the future of Iraq and it's people is bright. (.....by taking arms against a sea of troubles, by opposing, end them!) GBA

Carphunter · Dec 15, 2003

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Couldn't have asked for a better "gift" for the holidays then to see our guys drag this piece of trash from a dirt hole! I'm afraid they should have just shot him and said he resisted. This piece of filth does NOT deserve a fair trial! Persistence pays off. These things take time. Thank God for our troops!

.....and thank God for President Bush. Nice to see a President actually doing what he said he would do.

.....oh, I almost forgot, for all you liberal democrats, please jump off the nearest bridge.

rogerwa · Dec 15, 2003

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I don't think we ought to hurt him. I think a just punishment would be to be sentenced to life in prison. Treat him fairly, but make him face his victims on a daily basis. Make him listen to their stories. Let him see what his greed has sown and for him to understand the hate his fellow man has for him. Let him understand that he raised monsters, not great leaders in training. After that, then the communal shower with the rest of the inmates. This daily routine for the rest of his life would be hell on earth. For those who have a great dislike for our president, If Al Gore was in office, Saddam would be torturing somebody today. Maybe a wife, maybe a child. I'd be real curious if anyone feels I am wrong.

Boomyal · Dec 15, 2003

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Now, now, Rogerwa. We can't have that kind of talk from the Peoples Repuplic of MN.

Carphunter, that's ok now. You're amongst friends. You can say "a better gift for CHRISTMAS"

LadyFish · Dec 15, 2003

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Ralph 123 · Dec 15, 2003

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Good one LF!

I want Saddam alive and I would be willing to spare his life if he provides evidence of France, Russia and Germany being bribed for their support and the nature and location of the WMDs and evidence of links to Al Qaeda like Atta being trained in Baghdad. That will once and for all destroy the UN and the "Democratic Wing" of the Democratic party in the US. It would be worth it.

Carphunter · Dec 15, 2003

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Ok Boomyal, then Christmas it is. Didn't want to offend any of our athiest friends here.

Yeah, your right Ralph, if they can get that bozo to talk, then keeping him alive is the best thing to do.......................For now.

mellowyellow · Dec 15, 2003

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Iraq did have "some" democracy prior to Sadaam.. "From 1968 to 1979, under President Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr, the Baath Party ruled the country with an iron fist. However, within the party there was a degree of democracy: In many cases people rose to positions of power from below in a semidemocratic way. Also, at the top, discussions were conducted in a fairly free fashion. In many cases, decisions were made through a collective consultation of party leaders and after taking a vote. This limited democracy within the party ended in 1979 when Saddam Hussein replaced al-Bakr as president. Hussein forced his predecessor to resign and had 55 senior party activists and army officers executed for treason. However, there was no real evidence of treason. The reason for the purge was either opposition to Husseins replacing al-Bakr or a dispute over the way in which Hussein would be elected. A few more executions for disloyalty from 1982 to 1986 sent a clear message that no one could question the new presidents decisions and survive." (excerpt from encarta on history of Iraq)

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Dec 15, 2003

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apparently plywoodies posts are being deleted rather than the entire thread and gang, hes right ... saddam did build schools, libraries and hospitals ... he was seen as a golden prince, but I think that was a smokescreen to cover his ruthless nature and give a "good face" to the world. away from bagdad, away from the Eye of the Media, and its global reach, the people lived in unimaginable squalor - that which was not in the shadow of the many golden palaces was dirt, was mud, was starving, terrified people living in total fear of a tyrant, of someone who had tongues cut out for saying something against him, who had enemies ripped apart by four jeeps in the town square he lived by rule of absolute terror I hope to hell he dies in SCREAMING TERROR, but of course, he wont, his death will be either painless or, most likely, of old age in some UN sanctioned palace-with-bars the true shame of it all is, there is no justice in this, saddam who colluded with OBL, saddam who killed god knows how many of his own people, OBL who sent jets hurtling into the trade center towers and the pentagon, even if it were "ONLY" the souls that lost their lives in pennsylvania, what punishment can be meted out, what torture can compensate for the MILLIONS of man-years snuffed out, the horror of not only those who died, and who died not instantly, but with full knowledge death was imminent, that burned, that choked on black smoke, that leapt to their doom rather than be burned alive the horrific memories created the memories destroyed the lives never to be lived, or fulfilled the children left parentless, the children killed, the children never born a nation scarred, shorn of its innocence what punishment is punishment enough? what reparation could ever be made? I can only hope that there is a hell, for only eternal sufferage can be adequate punishment even then, its not enough

12Footer · Dec 17, 2003

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"If you consider that a negative, so be it. I prefer to call it realistic".

Realistic" is ; *The coalition kickin-A, and takin names, in both theatres of battle. * The nightly spin by the news media can be depended upon to focus on the blood, the self-detonating mutants, aned the death/damage resultant...Count on it every single night. * Bush did not plan, know of, or conspire in the attacks of 9/11, no matter how badly the left hates him. *Bush is not a "war-monger". It would be self-defeating towards his true goals as sitting president, and the last 3 years the left have consolodated things into one cleverly planned diversion from his agenda. These diversions are well tought-out, but thought out by desperate former leaders. They are loosing thier power, and know of no other way of regaining it, besides the tried and true meathods of deciet, derailing, filibustering, ect...... You allready know of the judges they sat on, and how badly they wanted to tie Cheney to Haliburton, even tho his acceptance of running for VP meant cutting all ties withh a company he loved and trusted. You know of all the rest of the "Bush Lied" stories they circulate, and try to get the mainstreanm to swallow. But something is wrong, Plywoody. You've seen it at every attempt the dems tried , to discredit this administration, and the rank-n-file American citizen ain't buying it! So they try more, even more outrageous charges, only to have it explode in thier "collective" faces. And what about the facts regarding Haliburton itself?? All they concentrate on, is trying to tie the company to missmanagement, and poor production, and only three firms are even capable of doing the job they do! I could go on, and still might. But what the left calls "investigation", is laughable. The side thier media portrays to the populous, is our losses and the "insergant's" gains. That's not laughable. it's sick. It's sad. But definately NOT funny. But I think I'll laugh for now, because it is so ridiculous to this point. I need to take Rush Limbaugh's advice, and laugh at this, until such time as they regain control of the country. But given thier implosion, that's not going to happen any time soon, thank God.

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