should i repower with ETEC

[Swamp Water]

i have an 05 60 merc 2 stoke carb . its a great motor no issues ever . i bought it new and run it hard . but i need more power i want to max out my boat with a 75 etec . brand new i like the light weight and smaller overall size . i am worried about all the issues i read about with these motors . like burnt up powerheads , bad computers , bad injectors , back and forth to the shop . they do have a good warranty but i dont want to have to use it .

 

[82rude]

Re: should i repower with ETEC

where are you reading about all the etec issues ?most of the threads i see are positive and quite frankly gushing about them.now the pre bombadier motors were another animal alltogether.in todays world of high tec 2 and 4 strokes there is a greater chance of issues arising as to the complexity of said motors.that being said computers ,injectors etc have come a long way and are progressing all the time.i love my 60 hp etec and dont regret for 1 second buying it .fuel economy is stellar ,oil usage miminal ,its very quite and starts instantly.i also got a 6 year warrenty at the time of sale so thats 6 years of piece of mind.smoke ,zero zip zilch nada!built like a tank also and very torquey.well thats my not so biased opion,lol.

 

[boobie]

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You're probably reading all the issues about the old Ficht DI mtrs. And yes, they Sucked. I've heard nothing but good about the E-TECS. A friend of mine has one and he has had nothing but good luck with it and the warranty is super.

 

[nwcove]

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i personally dont know anyone that has an e-tech ob, but know many guys who have snow machines running e-techs. they torture them machines beyond what anyone should.....they keep running strong. id buy one without doubt.

 

[Swamp Water]

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thanks guys i do own a non etec BRP snow machine that rocks my world 4 months a year . so why wouldnt a BRP out board rock the other 8 .

 

[Crosbyman]

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welI I have had a 75 ETEC since 2005. The ONLY issue I have had was occasionnal NO OIL code 38 alarms but they go away after a few minutes.

during that time the egine goes into SAFE mode and will not exceed 1200 ( darn I am forgetting the exact RPM). When the safe mode clears... I am off to the races with an engine built for the 90hp ETEC body so I doubt anything will ever break... on a 75 ETEC

Even read the 75 hp ETEC actually puts out about 83 hp

I use xd100 oil all the time ...no cheap but it sips oil and oil to me is not an issue

The engine has been amazing and burns 50% of what my Classic 50 did before It trolls at .6liter/ hour about 1US gal every 6.5 hours

I run a 17.5 bass boat 800 lbs , 2 big guys, 10 gal. gaz plus engine weight and get about 35 mph at 5200 rpm (engine max.)

My one and onlty beef and 25% my fault for not barking louder at my silly dealer (who had the boat back 3-4 times.) are code 38 alarms "no oil" since brand new (5 minutes in the water did it )

going on 8 years now.. warranty is over and I hear/read these code 38 were chronic on earlier models and could be fixed. Do I want to pay to get it fixed now ... NO . In my book BRP knows this and should recall all faulty engines regardless of age IMHO

The engine oil sensor misses a few oil pump beats and declares SAFE mode.... I just wait till it comes to it's senses then I fish all day.
In hotter temps code 38s are less prevalent if not completley gone during the summer but one cool morning will bring them back.

Would I buy another YES anytime but I wouldn't pi..... around with the dealer. I would scream my head off and his.

 

[kfa4303]

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I know if I had the money I'd snatch up an etec in a heart beat. Powerful, lightweight, great on gas, no break-in period, no service for 3 yr./300 hrs., proven technology on motors ranging from 15hp-200hp+, and they look cool in factory white. Made in the USA too.

 

[Crosbyman]

Re: should i repower with ETEC

made in USA... invented by Canadians

 

[kfa4303]

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touche! Just like Wolverine. (I thought the "B" in BRP sounded a little French-Canadian-ish.)

 

[Crosbyman]

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not the case for square drive screws... his name was Robertson

The french up here refer to them as square head screws

off topic !

 

[boobie]

Re: should i repower with ETEC

If you go back in time the Rotax engine was orginally made in Germany and was bought out by BRP.

 

[V153]

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Hey do you 'member the Rotax motorcycle w/all wheel drive ...?

 

[V153]

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To be more on topic, a buddy of mine runs a water taxi service around Boca Grande, Lil Gasparilla, & Palm Island(s). Gotta 150 ETEC with 18 gazillion hours, sittin on a Wellcraft V20 hull. Which he runs, well, like a taxi?

If'n yer looking for someone to diss Etecs? Emmet is not your guy ...

 

[kfa4303]

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What exactly is it about the ETEC/Rotax version of a 2-stroke that makes them so efficient? Just overall precision?

 

[Mi duckdown]

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(i have an 05 60 merc 2 stoke carb . its a great motor no issues ever .)
WHY mess with it .Run it it until it dies. with good maitenence you got 20 more years on that motor. my .02

 

[aerobat]

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made in USA... invented by Canadians

not really. the ficht fuel injection was invented by provenion, a german engineering company . etec is an improved ficht with the same technology ( electro magnetic high pressure injectors )

Provenion - FFI Geschichte

What exactly is it about the ETEC/Rotax version of a 2-stroke that makes them so efficient? Just overall precision?

one secret is the lean burn technology at low rpm,s .

cheers

 

[Crosbyman]

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Aerobat.... don't you be a cloud on a sunny day

 

[aerobat]

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don,t worry , the sun is shining ;-)

 

[Fleetwin]

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I repowered my boat last year. I wanted an e-tec in the worst way. But, the price was just way out of line. I was looking at engines in the 60 HP range.

The local Rude dealer, which you absolutely have to have a dealer install, wanted nearly twice the price of a new Mercury 60 EFI Four Stroke-Big Foot.

If you can get a dealer to work with you on an etec, buy it. They are great engines.

I have found that they are definetely noisier than my Four Stroke.

I love my Merc., now, even though I'm a tried and true ex John/Rude guy. I have four other John/Rudes.

I was able to install the Merc. myself with no warranty issues. The price and self installation were the sellers for me.

 

[boobie]

Re: should i repower with ETEC

Crosby, Aerobat is correct. The Ficht technology was invented in Germany and bought up by OMC.