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Deerdog · Apr 19, 2004

This is an interesting bit of information: a.. Enron's Chairman did meet with the President and the Vice President in the Oval Office. b.. Enron gave $420,000 to the President's Party over three years. c.. Enron donated $100,000 to the President's Inauguration Festivities. d.. The Enron Chairman stayed at the White House 11 times. e.. The Enron Corporation had access to the Administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it. f.. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction. Scandalous!! g.. BUT...the President under whom all this happened was NOT George W. Bush. It was Bill Clinton.

SoulWinner · Apr 22, 2004

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What was the price for night in the Lincoln Bedroom? I still think about the Clinton years and scratch my head. How could THAT have happened.......TWICE

snapperbait · Apr 22, 2004

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Excuse me.. Let's get one thing straight.. Enron has made very large and near equil contributions to BOTH the democratic and republican parties.. It has nothing to do with politics, all those donations are about $buying$ influence with the politicians to make things good for Enron... Example: "support this issue, and we'll give the (enter democratic or republican party here) a signifigant contribution".. That's how it works.... Enron was being solicited for donations by the republican party while the government was investigating them... Does that strike you as a little funny?

Do you not think this sort of thing goes on with the current administration or with the higher up's in the republican and democratic parties?..

If you all don't think so, then I wonder if I could intereset you in a few bridges for sale...

12Footer · Apr 22, 2004

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And all of Enron's overtures did not help them one bit,did it? It is called "integrity". I know there it's a new concept after 8 years of Clinton, but it's actually a good thing.

snapperbait · Apr 22, 2004

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"integrity"

Quite frankly, neither party knows the meaning of that word... Both parties would sell their mother for half a buck, if they thought they could.. I would'nt go spouting off that word too awful much, especially with reguards to the current administration.. Might just end up eating your "integrity" later..

12Footer · Apr 22, 2004

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True enough. I wont spout anything off, much less, virtues. I'm not qualified. But I do know the difference, and it is indeed called "integrity". We have recorded evidence now, that this man cannot be purchased, like mr Clinton was. How long has Enron been cooking the books before the election? How soon after the election did Enron switch endorsement? You can say Bush will say or do anything to hold the seat, and you can say Kerry will do anything to get it. But you can't buy integrity. you earn that.

Skinnywater · Apr 22, 2004

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Quite frankly, neither party knows the meaning of that word... Both parties would sell their mother for half a buck, if they thought they could..

Snapperbait, that is a very negative and condescending view.

But say it loud and often.

SoulWinner · Apr 22, 2004

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It's about the lesser of two evils. One is clearly more evil to my wallet, the dems. Sure, I care about the lives of unborn children, the purity and cleanlyness of the air and water. I care about the oceans fisheries, as well as those near me. I care the humane treatment of all animals, pets, livestock,, et al. I care about my own liberty and freedom. I care about isssues on both sides of the political fence, but one party wants to rob me blind and take my freedom, the other wants to do ........well, at the moment I don't know what. But the people of this country will vote themselves a raise every chance they get. Those who pay taxes generally vote republican, those who do not pay taxes and get a nice fat bonus in the form of Earned Income Credit vote the other way generally. Meanwhile both parties are swimming the same filthy toilet, all bought and sold by the same special interests with the money to spend. This country....still the best, but for how long?

18rabbit · Apr 22, 2004

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Fwiw, Larry Clayman (Judicial Watch) has a lawsuit filed against V.P. Cheney over ethics stuff. So??? So Clayman/JW doesnt lose lawsuits. The D.C. Federal Appeals Court has already ruled against Cheney. Its now before the Supreme Courtnext week. JW takes them all on, left or right, doesn't matter. They don't take on the courts!...you can't. You can get an idea of the level of government corruption just by scanning down the page here: http://www.judicialwatch.org/ None of it is as corrupt as the courts. It is absolutely astounding what Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia recently didwith IMPUNITY!!! His action at that event should be enough to have him immediately removed from the Court, but that would require a vote of the Senate

12Footer · Apr 22, 2004

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What Soulwinner said... But of all the evils he addressed, there is the big evil that he failed to mention, and it's not his fault that he failed to mention it. There is a concerted effort by the partison media to cover up all mention of 9/11/01, and every other attack on the United States, while singing the attrocities of "what we are doing to the people of Iraq", or some other anti-admin bull. It just gets old. And for those of you who actually hate the incumants this much, just know these little head games won't werk the same as they did 20years ago. the average American is pretty much dumbed-down. But there are still enough of them around who "won't be foolerd again". We are at war. To hand this country over to a commander who would give our forces to the same clan that concieved "Food For Oil", is inconceivable! And those of you who do not think there is an effort to brainwash you into voting for a traitor, try to remember the following , the next time you listen or watch a news report on TV or radio from the partison media( you'll then be as convinced as I am of thier sinister efforts.. The next time they mention "Haliburton", listewn carefully to the words they place around it. Most of the reports will do this in the same sentence!! They'll invoke the name of VP Cheney somehow, by calling it "Formerly run by Richard Cheny", or "VP Cheney's former employer, Haliburton"----- They NEVER miss an opertunity to do this! And it is asinine-crazy and totally irrelevant. But if you let them, you'll walk-away from the news report thinking "Haliburton is evil, Cheney has them in his back pocket, and he is evil...And he wants to make an American-only version of the 'food for oil' program to line his pockets!" Some of you have even read such retoric right here! But please, people---think for yourselves, and start today. Don't let them fool you again!

JoeW · Apr 23, 2004

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Good post 12footer. I have another hobby, astronomy, and I have spent some time on a political forum on a popular artronomy web site. The sight is dominated by liberals, but I try to learn something from all and occasionally sharpen my debate skills. I soon came to realize that most are not interested in true debate, that is the statement of facts, their sources and how they are logically related. Most are interested in ranting hatred for GWB. Even when I asked how they would change the current situation, I got no real answers, just more expressed hatred of GW.

wvit100 · Apr 23, 2004

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Here’s what Bush said: Bush’s Claim Reality "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.” State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq has 500 tons of chemical weapons: - Sarin gas - Mustard gas - VX Nerve agent Not True - Zero Chemical Weapons Found Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq “U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents.” State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq has 30,000 weapons capable of dumping chemical weapons on people Not True - Zero Munitions Found not a single chemical weapon’s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq “We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas." State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq has a growing fleet of planes capable of dispersing chemical weapons almost anywhere in the world Not True - Zero Aerial Vehicles Found Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida." State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda. And implied that Iraq was somehow behind 9/11 Not True - Zero Al Qaeda Connection To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed. (besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US) "Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq has attempted to purchase metal tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production Not True - The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war. "Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites." Bush speech to the nation – 10/7/2002 Iraq is rebuilding nuclear facilities at former sites. Not True - Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there IAEA report to UN Security Council – 1/27/2003 "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003 Iraq recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa Not True - The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible. "We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." VP **** Cheney – “Meet the Press” 3/16/2003 Iraq has Nuclear Weapons for a fact Not True - “The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq." IAEA report to UN Security Council – 3/7/2003 "We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in." Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003 Iraq’s Saddam Hussein refused to allow UN inspectors into Iraq Not True - UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003

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