Sooo Many Choices- What to do??? Motor?

[BULLWARKS]

Ok, I need to choose a 150 Yammy but which one?? <br /><br />Looked at Yammy site and brochoure too many choices and I don't know what I'm dooing. Which is better for what and what prop pitch, metal etc <br /><br />Can anyone help?

 

[tommays]

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i think your type of boat and how you want to use it will bring some better answers<br /><br /><br />tommays

 

[BULLWARKS]

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Thanx tommays;<br /><br />Crestliner 1850 Sportfish is the Boat, used primarily for fishing and some crusing. NY, NJ, PA Lakes, Hudson River, Bays. No Ocean further than visible shore.

 

[bossee]

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Hi,<br />So is it a new (2005) Crestliner 1850 Sportfish You are going to buy?<br /><br /> http://www.crestliner.com/boat_info/boat_model.asp?TID=97&BID=28 <br /><br />Personally I would get the Yamaha F150 4-stroke since it is probably the best general purpose 150 hp Yamaha has.<br />It is a very good outboard, that has all test shown I have read.<br /><br />But are You sure You need as much as 150 hp on this 18,2 ft boat?<br />My best gues is that a Yamaha F115 4-stroke could be enough. But since the boat can handle as much as 175 hp according to Crestliner website a 150 hp outboard will be fine also of course if you have the money.<br /><br />I have a 19 ft bowrider myself with Yamaha F115 4-stroke - it works fine with up to 5 people (but the boat is rated for up to 7 people). The boat can handle 150 hp also if needed (I have seen the boat I have with Yamaha F150 4-stroke and it seemed to run fine).<br /><br />Make sure You get hydralic steering if you choose 150 hp, like Teleflex SeaStar or similar.<br /><br />About the prop: the Crestliner dealer should be able to provide you with the correct stainless steel prop for Yamaha F150 if You are going to choose that outboard. Like Yamaha Black Steel 13 3/4 x 21" would probably work as a starting point.<br /><br />Good luck.

 

[youngboater]

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I would get the 4 stroke 150 from Yamaha. If it was my boat I would put the biggest motor I could afford on the boat and of course within the coast guard specs on the metal plate. I have a 16' Lund with a 75horse motor and I always wish I had the 90 horse (max hp for boat).

 

[BULLWARKS]

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Bo: Thanks for the info, I thought the 115 was fine for me but everything I read says get the biggest you can afford. Of course afford is not only dollars but weight too! I'm thinking of resale and it seems the closer to max hp the better <br /><br />Sounds like the 4 stroke is the one I need (F150).<br /><br />Prop: Heard aluminum better in New England lakes because hard rock bends the shaft with Stainless?? True??<br /><br />Max People rating, is not really Max People!! It's all got to do with Max Weight as I understand it. Does the max weight include everything but the boat? (Motor, Kicker, Troller, fuel, water, gear) and what is left is people?

 

[dajohnson53]

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Originally posted by BULWARKS:<br /> Bo: Thanks for the info, I thought the 115 was fine for me but everything I read says get the biggest you can afford. Of course afford is not only dollars but weight too! I'm thinking of resale and it seems the closer to max hp the better ...

I've never seen anyone complain about having too much HP and you also never see people selling an engine on the used market to buy a new one that's smaller. It's always the other way around. And, having been on the used boat market a few times, you see a "million" underpowered ones for every one you see with decent power. All to say, get the larger one if you can afford it. I'd also bet the weight difference between a 115 and 150 isn't huge -what is it anyway?<br /><br />

Originally posted by BULWARKS:<br /> ... Prop: Heard aluminum better in New England lakes because hard rock bends the shaft with Stainless?? True??<br />

I dont believe this and think it's an old wives tale. When you hit something the rubber hub is the thing that protects the engine, not the metal in the prop. An aluminum prop will be cheaper to replace if you ruin it, but the stainless will stand up to more minor stuff that will trash an aluminum. Again, if you can afford it, stainless is the way to go, imho.

 

[roscoe]

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Yes, max weight is everything that you add to the base hull.<br />In your case, start with 1625# and subract weight of ...<br />motor, batteries, fuel, kicker, cooler, gear, etc. What you have left can be occupied by people.<br /><br />Your boat will have plenty of power for sure. Personally, I would go aluminum for the reason you give. The tiny bit of performance loss will be overshadowed by all the power you have. I'd rather give up 2 mph with a prop that will break, rather than perform a little better and risk my lower unit.

 

[bossee]

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Yamaha F150, weight is about 466 lb (212 kg) including prop according to Yamaha US website.<br />Yamaha F115, weight is about 402 lb (183 kg).<br />So the F150 is 64 lb (29 kg) heavier.<br />Probably nothing to worry about except the boat can carry less cargo/people then before You reach max allowed weight for the boat.

 

[BULLWARKS]

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Thanx to all for your posts <br /><br />The 115 is 64 pounds lighter than the 150 according to the Yamaha site.<br /><br />The Max Load is 1625#s Motor=466, Gear=100, Fuel Full=250, Troll Motor=100, Three Batteries=150-200, Kicker=100, Livewells(water)=270 Equals 1186#s <br />That leaves me 439lbs !!! If I get in the boat with ONE other guy that leaves me about 39lbs!!

 

[bossee]

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Hi,<br />With all that gear you plan to bring onboard it seems You need a larger boat.

 

[BULLWARKS]

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GREAT! Can't tow larger without replacing the Vehicle <br /><br />All I added was the Kicker and Troller. Need the Troller, guess I'll use one Livewell and fill 1/2 Fuel and can the kicker, Damn<br /><br />Am I doing something wrong? Should be able to go fishing with 4 in a 18ft boat, No??

 

[youngboater]

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Humm...That is weird. What kind of kicker weighs 100lbs? Do u really need three batteries? I have the same setup as you with an 8hp kicker and Minnkota trolling motor and I only need 2 batteries. I've had mine filled with 6 people and full gear and all I noticed was that the boat sat 2 inches lower and it took a few more rpms to get it on plane. I think you'll be fine. I just did the math on my boat and it comes out to be about the same. I guess my boat is overloaded all the time? I never realized that I can only hold 2 people without being over the specs. I wouldn't worry about it. You aren't going to notice a difference (I never have and can barely tell the difference when 1 person is on board or 3 people), I see boats all the time that are overloaded and doing fine (not to saying that it's ok). Take a test drive and see what you think. It is up to you to decide, this is just my opinion.

 

[BULLWARKS]

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Youngboater: Thanx for the post. You can tell I'm new to ownership, in fact don't even have the boat yet! Just took Power Squadron course, read insurance info and Specs and thought, wow, no room for people.<br /><br />I thought I needed two batteries for the 24v Troll (Minkota Pro 80 US) and one for the main? The Kicker (9.9 Yammy 4-St) according to their web site is 99lbs.

 

[bossee]

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You will save 16 lb (7 kg) if you select the Yamaha F8.<br />Why do You need the Minkota also?<br />Can you not use the small Yamaha for trolling (slow speed fishing)? That way You need only one battery (probably) as a starter battery and save even more weight (of two batteries).

 

[BULLWARKS]

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Bo: I do alot of Freshwater Bass fishing, Think the Kicker will make too much noise. I'll check fishing forum and see if anyone has any experience.<br /><br />You think the 8hp is fine? (18ft Aluminum, max weight Boat-1,470lbs, Capacity-1,625lbs = 3,095lbs).

 

[bossee]

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8 hp will be enough, I'm sure. Are you using this smaller outboard as a safety line if the main outboard will fail?<br /><br />Just a note about noise:<br />I have a Yamaha F115 and at idle You can not hear it (almost).<br />Usually the larger outboards gives You too fast speed at idle when trolling, but in theory the Yamaha F150 could be used at idle for trolling. I would guess the F150 is at least as quite as my F115 at idle.<br />But no outboard can be as quite as an electrical Minkota I guess.

 

[Silvertip]

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Bulwarks -- you would be wise to pay attention to the maximum capacity (weight - not # of people) plate on the boat. Perish the thought of having any sort of accident, but your insurance company as well as those who may be injured, will take you to the woodshed if you knowingly or unknowingly were operating an overloaded boat. By the way -- you mentioned being maxed out for towing capability. What is that vehicle?

 

[dajohnson53]

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Why do you need a kicker and a trolling motor? I understand the trolling motor - quieter for trolling, but why the kicker, if you're not going to use it (the kicker) for trolling?

 

[youngboater]

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When Bass fishing in freshwater lakes you work the shore line and a trolling motor is very quiet and it moves the boat around very very well almost like turnin on a dime (when mounted on the front). I use the kicker as a back up motor and also for trolling for trout. I would suggest that if you can get the 9.9 do it. I have an 8hp merc. 2 stroke which is fine for my setup but for you I think you'll be much better off with the 9.9. According to GPS my kicker will move me 5.5mph at it's fastest and this is also at the elevation where the jets are tuned and no current(so less variables). I don't think everybody understands how useful the electric motor is if you haven't seriously ever been freshwater bass fishing. Three batteries won't hurt and I would recommend that many but I must have missed the part of the electric motor. On some lakes in Arizona you are only allowed to hava a 10hp or smaller and this may be the case in your situation? I think you're on the right track. You'll love the set up and it is very versaitle when fishing a variety of species like bass walleye trout stripers etc. It'll do em all.