Steering question

jimpittman

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I'm not sure what you call it, but I think it is called positive steering or no feed back steering. While steering the boat my steering hangs up and I have to increase pressure and it will turn free, then it will stick again. It hasn't been a big problem, but I feel it is a sign of something wrong. Can this steering be lubricated other than the two grease fittings where the cable attaches to the motor? If so is there a procedure for this?
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GA_Boater

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You should fix this before something happens.

Guessing, I think the cable has broken strands catching on the cable lining or the steering box is on it's last legs.

It sounds like you have an outboard. Disconnect the cable from the steering link on the motor and see if the motor swivels from side to side with no binding. Spin the steering wheel from lock to lock checking for binding. We can move on from there.
 

jimpittman

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Thanks for your advice. Yes this is an OB motor. 115 evinrude 84 model
I will do that as soon as possible. I will get back to you when I know more.
Thanks
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jimpittman

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GA_Boater,
I disconnected the cable from the motor as you recommended. The motor rotates effortless. The steering still had a hitch in it only when I steer right.
I went ahead and disconnected the nut holding the cable where it enters the shaft, pulled it back as much as possible. Couldn't get it all out due to interference.
It did not seem to be overly dry or corroded. Cleaned it up a best I could and lubricated it and stroked it back and forth. I also removed the steering wheel and tried to let penetrating oil go down the shaft of the cable receiver mounted through the console. Put every thing back together and the operation is improved although there is still a slight hitch in the movement when steering to the right. The hitch is not bad and does not interfere with steering, but is this a sign of failure.
Also are you supposed to lubricate the unit under the steering wheel where the cable runs through?
 

64osby

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You should be able to remove the cable from the helm completely. Once removed spin the helm to feel for anything irregular. Replace it if it is worn.

If the cable is still removed from the steering tube you should be able to slide the cable within the sheath. If it is hanging up replace it.

Steering is one of those things that is pretty important for a boat. Bad things can happen when it breaks or gets jammed..

The cable that goes into the helm should have a liberal amount of grease on it.
 

Fleetwin

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Don't mess with this. Replace the helm and cable.

If that system fails at speed, the results can be catastrophic.
 

GA_Boater

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Don't mess with this. Replace the helm and cable.

If that system fails at speed, the results can be catastrophic.

Absolutely agree! If the helm has a "hitch" with no load, it is failing. A new system can be found for under 200 bucks with a new cable included.
 

jimpittman

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I understand. This has to be done. If I understand, what is suggested is that I replace the cable and the "Helm" (the box under the steering wheel). Is that correct? The whole system. Does the Helm normally fail or wear out? I am just trying to fully understand the magnitude of this repair.
 

GA_Boater

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I understand. This has to be done. If I understand, what is suggested is that I replace the cable and the "Helm" (the box under the steering wheel). Is that correct? The whole system. Does the Helm normally fail or wear out? I am just trying to fully understand the magnitude of this repair.

The "box" can wear out or can be damaged. Also the cable becomes worn, as well. Unfortunately boat steering doesn't have much in the way of maintenance because only the cable can be greased at the motor end. The helm gears are not serviceable in most cases.

It's best to replace as a system - A new "box" and cable, then you will have years of service. Buying a helm and cable separately is not cost effective. As a forum member you get an extra 5% off by using the "FORUM5" promo code.

Replacing isn't hard unless getting under the dash is difficult. First determine if you have a rack and pinion (long and rectangular) or rotary (roundish looking) system. Look at the pics in the iboats steering link Fleetwin posted to help.

After that, it's just out with the old and in with the new. One hint is to tie some heavy twine on one end of the old cable to use for pulling the new cable, makes it a lot easier. Often the old cable will have markings showing the length.
 

Fed

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I've heard that the teleflex no feed back rotary helms can sometimes require an initial little 'extra' force to get them moving.
Not sure what's inside them but guess it's some sort of cam arrangement.
The 2 zerks on the tilt tube don't go through to the inside of the tube so the only way to grease the inner tube & steering rod is to put grease directly on it.
 
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