Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

Gas Giant

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Today I decided to disassemble my spare lower unit - it became my spare when I accidentally took out the pivot pin. So I decided that I would take it apart to fix the pivot pin, and while I had it apart I'd throw in a new seal kit and a new water pump impeller.

All was actually going well, until this problem arose. The book says to remove the nut, and to separate the housings. Well, I did manage to separate the housings, but the nut in question didn't come off - it took the threaded rod it was attached to with it, and its in the way of me removing the rest of the guts. There are hard-to-see red arrows indicating the threaded rod and the nut.

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Looks to me like the nut was supposed to come off, and the threaded rod was supposed to come out with the upper housing. Well, that isn't what happened. I tried putting two nuts on the threaded rod tight against each other, and then using two wrenches - one on the bottom nut of the two I tightened, and one on the stuck nut, but it didn't help - the stuck nut just turned the threaded rod anyway.

Looking for ideas to remove this thing, since I need it to come out of the way. Non-destructive methods are appreciated, but I doubt I am going to remove this thing without destroying it. I was thinking of welding a nut to the threaded part and trying to loosen the stuck nut that way, but I don't know if my Miller 110V is going to make a strong enough weld since apparently they used the world's strongest locking nut when they put this together.

Other than that, I guess I just try to cut it out? :confused:
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

I would at least try welding a nut on first: If you try to cut off the nut itself, you run a good risk of damaging the O ring seal area on the gearcase. If you have a Dremel, a small carbide bit or a diamond tipped one may be the thing for cutting the nut accurately.
 

Robert D

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Re: Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

I'd just one of those nut breaker tools. Easy to do with no damage. Might have to put a helicoil in the mid section and a new stud...shouldn't be a problem.
 

BuzzStPoint

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Re: Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

Screw a nut to the top and weld it on.. Your 110v should be ample enough to do the job. Where not looking for a long life weld here. Just enough to take the other nut off.
 

Gas Giant

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Re: Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

Well, my welder was going to take too long to get out of its hiding spot and I was out of patience, so here is what I did instead:

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Put a nut on, drilled through it, and wedged a nail through the hole to hold it still. It worked fine, and since I am tearing the whole assembly down anyway, I can make sure that no filings are left inside the unit.

For future reference, if anyone finds this.
 

BuzzStPoint

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Re: Stuck nut....any ideas before I resort to cutting it?

Genius...

I would have never thought of that.... Gonna have to put that in my bag of tricks...
 
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