Suzukie DT55 idle and ID questions

jrfounta

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I am just looking for a little help with a problem I'm having. I was given a 18' duracraft with a DT55 on it but it hasn't seen any use since 1994. My first question is about the age of the engine I was told it was a 1991 but when I've checked the SN I've found it to be an '86. Can someone please double check my findings just for piece of mind? SN 05501-603677.


Secondly, I've covered most of the basics (carb rebuild, impeller replaced, oiled cylinders, replaced some dry rotted fuel line, new plugs, etc); however I'm still having an issue at idle. The engine cranks almost immediately seems to idle a little fast (no extra throttle applied) for about 15 seconds then idles down (a lot like one would expect from a fuel injected car). After the RPM's drop the engine idles great for about 45 seconds (yep you could set your watch by this engine if you wanted it to, it's predictable at least) then coughs once or twice and dies. I've tried to make a few adjustments to the carbs with no notable change. I tried increasing the idle speed with the electronic idle control but I can't detect any change what-so-ever using it. If I ever so slightly increase the idle using the fast idle lever the engine will run until it empties the tank but if I shut the fast idle all the way off, 45 seconds and kaput. I do have one thing that I noticed this afternoon, the fitting on the fuel line that attaches to the engine leaks a little fuel when the primer bulb is pumped hard; however the filter on the engine never appears to run out of fuel. Ideas? Any help on proper technique for adjusting these carbs? Cars I know, fuel injected Mercs and Hondas I know, this little Suzuki I could use a little guidance on.

This engine has only been run on muffs at this point so it appears to run great but we all know how nice an engine can seem with no load on it. I'll have a better report after this weekend I hope.

I also have one two more generic questions for those of you who know these engines. How hardy are the fuel pumps on these Suzuki's? Should I anticipate the need to do a rebuild on it after sitting so long or is it likely to be OK? I've slept on the side of a Bayou before, I really don't want to do it again. The previous owner disconnected the oil injection so could anyone tell me the proper oil ratio before I start putting some hours on this engine? I'm running 50:1 right now as that is pretty standard but I would like some validation.

Thanks ahead of time to everyone that has any input to offer or ideas to try. It's been a long time since I worked on a boat engine that didn't more or less diagnose it's own problems for me, but it's also been a long time since I worked on an engine that was mine.
 

deejaycee_2000

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Re: Suzukie DT55 idle and ID questions

Welcome to the forum ;) ..... Yep you have a 1986 model .... The ideal air/fuel mix setting on the cars would be 1&1/2 turns outwards from soft stop .... You need to replace that leaking fitting it can cause havoc believe me .... there must be absolutely no leaks on the fuel line ..... The fuel pump is a good system, just replace the fuel pump diaphragm give it a good clean and you are good to go .... 50:1 fuel mix is perfect ...
 

staky99

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Re: Suzukie DT55 idle issues

Re: Suzukie DT55 idle issues

For the life of me I cannot figure out how to post a new thread so please excuse my intrusion. I also have a DT55 (1986) that has had idle issue. I purchased the boat a month ago and it ran great at high rpms but would stall after about 15 seconds at idle or if I tried to go fowrd or reverse at slow speeds. Compression is 110 in all 3 cylinders. Spark is good and spark plugs are gapped propperly. I reset the lean/rich air mixture to 1 and 1/2 turns with no change. I then replaced the fuel pump diaphram with no change. Next I cleaned the fuel filter (which was not dirty to start) and checked all fuel lines for holes and found a leak in one and replaced it. This made no change. I then replaced the fuel tank, line from tank to engine, bulb, and fitting to gas tank (nothing changed). Next I purchased a carb kit and rebuilt the carbs...and i mean i cleaned those things over two days with carb cleaner and compressed air. They idle jets were really clogged by the way so I was pretty excited that I solved the problem. I put everything together and when i started the engine it sounded great...I cant put my finger on it but it justr sounded better...then after 15 secends the idel slows as before and the coughs and it dies. I then tried to use the warm up bar just to see if it would run forever with it up as it would before and it wouldnt...it would die just as it used to at idle. AAAAAAA! Now, when I replaced the fuel pump diaphram there was no spring in the fuel pump but I did use the spring in the kit as there was a place for it in the fuel pump...could this cause a problem? I also took off the thermostat and verified that it is working and adjusted the throttle arm to the correct 4.5 inches. There are a few other things that seem a little off but i dont think they have anything to do with my idle issues. There is water coming out of the exhaust...i have been told this is normal and not so need some help here. Also, when the engine is turned on the water flow warning goes off for three to five seconds and then goes off. Oh, and i pulled the water flow sensor off and it works. I would truly appreciate your help and any ideas you guys might have.
 
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