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letting a company "reduce" the amount of debt that you owe, etc. Are these things on the up and up ?? THere has got to be a catch to it. WHAT is it ?? :confused:

Seems there are alot of them on T.V. anymore.
 

bitterboater

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One of the catches is that it will harm your credit report just as much as a bankruptcy will.
Another is that while you are not paying your bills to "reduce" them you are paying this third party co.
Also many credit card companies do not deal with third party negotiators. Which is what these companies purport to be.
In all, its a scam. Some may be good, but most are not.
 

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Say, bitterboater, what are you bitter'bout?:)
 

SuzukiChopper

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I've always wondered about these companies too. My thought on them is that they prey on people who just don't know that they can call and negotiate with their CC companies without paying someone to do it. Has always seemed like a bit of a scam to me, kind of like all the gold melting pot companies that have surfaced recently.
 

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Seems to me that this is an "opportunist" (spelling may be incorrect) thing for the advertisers.
 

Bob_VT

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The mortgage reduction advertisements and the credit advertisements are 99.9% a scam. They are charging you to do things that anyone can do for free.

The allege that they will act as your agent for a fee (which is usually charged and they get paid first) and after 90 days regardless of success or failure the money has been made.

If you have credit debt it is normally batter to do everything yourself.


BEFORE you get involved ....do yourself a favor and contact your State Attorney General Office...... ask about what complaints have been filed and why...... it will open your eyes.

Here is a very good C&P to read...

In 1986, Congress passed the Fair Credit Billing Act (FCBA) to help consumers resolve disputes with creditors over errors which appear on bills for "open end" credit arrangements, which include credit cards, revolving charge accounts (such as department store accounts), and overdraft checking.
The Act applies only to "billing errors" on the periodic bills or statements you receive (usually monthly) for your "open end" credit. The term "billing errors" includes:
Charges not made by you or anyone authorized by you to use your account;
Charges which are incorrectly identified or for which the wrong amount or date is shown;
Charges for goods or services you did not accept or which were not delivered as agreed;
Errors in the computation of charges or similar errors;
Failure to properly reflect payments or credits, such as for returned merchandise;
Not mailing or delivering bills to your current mailing address provided you have notified the creditor of the change of address at least twenty (20) days before the billing period ends;
Charges for which you request an explanation or written proof of purchase;
If you believe you have a billing error on your periodic statement consider the following:

Call and write the company
Sometimes a telephone call is all it takes to correct the problem. Make sure you keep a record of the date, person contacted, and subject matter of each telephone contact you have with the company.
A telephone call does not trigger the protection to which you are entitled under the FCBA. You must send a written billing error notice to the company which must reach the creditor within 60 days after the first bill containing the error was mailed to you. The letter you send must include your name and account number, a statement that you believe the bill contains an error, the dollar amount involved and the reasons you think the error exists. Your written notice should be sent to the address provided on your billing statement for billing error notices unless the bill indicates that is where the notice is to be sent to the store. It may be a good idea to send your notice letter by certified mail and request a return receipt, so you have a record of the dates of mailing and receipt.

The company's response
The FCBA provides that the creditor must acknowledge your notice in writing within 30 days after it has received it, unless the problem is resolved within that time period. In any case, within two billing cycles (but not more than 90 days) from the date the creditor received your billing error notice, it must conduct an investigation and either correct the error or explain why the bill is believed to be correct. If a billing error is found, the creditor must write you to explain the corrections to be made to your account. In addition to crediting your account with the amount not owed, the creditor must remove all finance charges, late fees and other charges relating to that amount. If the creditor determines the bill to be correct, that you owe a portion of the amount or that you owe the entire amount in dispute, this must be explained to you promptly in writing. You do have the right to request copies of documents proving you owe the money.

Continued disagreement
If you still dispute the amount owed after the procedure set forth above has been followed, write the creditor within 10 days after receiving the company's explanation and state that you still refuse to pay. At this point, the creditor may begin collection procedures.

Additional rights and remedies
The FCBA allows consumers to sue a creditor who violates the Act and provides for certain restrictions on creditors which don't follow its procedures. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces the Act. While the FTC does not represent individuals in private disputes, it does take consumer complaints and questions about the Act. The FTC also has published a pamphlet which outlines in more detail your rights under the FCBA. Requests to the FTC should be directed to its Atlanta regional office at Suite 5M35, 60 Forsyth Street, Atlanta, GA 30303-2322, (404)656-1399. <<<< this regional office may vary based on your State and location....
 

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Good response Bob, thanx to you and everyone !!!! I was curious, about something that seemed too good to be true !!!!!
 

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If it seems too good to be true then it most likely is. My opinion is that these companies are preying on those in a desperate situation and will take a lot of money that these poor folk simply do not have available and leave them in a more desperate situation.
You can negotiate with any creditor yourself and come to an agreement. I have done this on a couple of occasions for our children (now grown and flown the nest) with extremely good results.
Keep the "help you out" companies out of it.
 

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If it seems too good to be true then it most likely is. My opinion is that these companies are preying on those in a desperate situation and will take a lot of money that these poor folk simply do not have available and leave them in a more desperate situation.
You can negotiate with any creditor yourself and come to an agreement. I have done this on a couple of occasions for our children (now grown and flown the nest) with extremely good results.
Keep the "help you out" companies out of it.


Great advice here. Best way to get out of debt is to just pay it off. If you can't, then you need to reduce your expenses and sell your toys and get rid of anything that you don't NEED. Hurts but it works.
 

Bob_VT

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Well, with the current economic situation..... some people may be forced into a slow pay or no pay situation.

First prioritize your bills...... living expense should come first.... then establish good communications with your mortgage and your credit cards too.

I recently "rescued" a senior citizen that was misled by a law firm. The representative was not licensed to operate or conduct business in VT and told me to mind my own business!

I took the advice to heart....... I am not a lawyer and I should not be involved..... so, I invited the Attorney General's from VT and the lawyer's home state to be involved....... I love parties so I even invited the Social Security Administration since my friend is on SS. The law office then proceeded to threaten this vulnerable senior citizen so I invited the police department!

The moral to this story is to do most of the stuff on your own but incorporate other people into the mix for advice. Do not spend an extra penny to attempt to get out of debt....... oh yeah..... lawyer's should not threaten soldier's ;)
 
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