The art of small talk?

rbh

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One of the issues I have always had is small talk, some people can just "natter"on
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!
Others like myself when dealing with people are more issue oriented, kinda more fact base, more substance to the conversation.
When I do a cold call to a perspective customer I am in my element, go to a social gathering I get a little tongue tied at times????
(A couple of drinks can help, but can sneak up on you and bite your butt in the morning, never around a customer)

Anyone have an ansewer for this???
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Making small talk is a quality developed over time. Frankly some people can bs better than others. Some things that help, are to ask questions. Like sports, cars, boats, women/wife, stocks,politics,jobs, travel,or even just the weather. These subjects can all vary depending on the personality you are dealing with. Just dive in and don't be scared, kinda like you do on the forum rbh....:)
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Making small talk is a quality developed over time. Frankly some people can bs better than others. Some things that help, are to ask questions. Like sports, cars, boats, women/wife, stocks,politics,jobs, travel,or even just the weather. These subjects can all vary depending on the personality you are dealing with. Just dive in and don't be scared, kinda like you do on the forum rbh....:)

YUP, this place has been my social out let for the last couple years, and trust me it has helped.
(not a hermit by any means, but do not socialize like I used to)
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Something I always used was to have a repoitoire of about 6 subjects that you are well versed on. Recent news events, cars, boats, sports, religion, politics, kite flying, whatever...This gives you a basis to initiate a conversation with others who may feel a bit awkward as well. It's also best, as was mentioned, to initiae the conversation in the forms of questions, especially about the others present. So, what do you do for a living? What are your hobbies? Where are some good places to go in this town? Most people enjoy talking about themselves and their hobbies. Once the ice is broken, it's just normal converastion.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

i hate making small talk when i talk on the phone literrally its "hi, i will be home at 5 good bye" 30 seconds or less. i have a cousin who THINKS he knows every thing and every time you visit him he precedes to try and teach you his massive quanity of unless knownledge, just nod, stare, breath, add a few uh-huh's. lately i've turned into my dad at the docks and i will talk to people while waiting for the dock to open.

number 1 is weather, effects us all great starter; number 2 talk about there boat, comment tell them what you like about it and that you wish you boat had; number 3 comment on there choice in product, like beer if you see them drinking bud light you know there your friends and will probably share!; number 4 once they share the beer your good to go, get some jager and do some shots.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

My favorite book is Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people", which despite it's ominous title, is really one of the first great self-help books, for overcoming shyness and learning public speaking. My treasured copy (it was my Dad's) is in it's third printing - in 1940! It's as relevant today, IMO was it was back then, because people's basic emotions never change.

One of it's bits of gold, (that I live by) that on the deepest inside, the most important person in the world is ourselves. Sure we love our wives and kids, enjoy their their company and focus on their needs, work hard at our jobs, and help our community, but in the long run, our hopes, interests, dreams, and fears, are on our minds, more than anything else.

Am I not correct?

When at a party, or other social event and you want to make conversation with another person, who do you think they are interested in the most? You? Not likely, at least at first. Take advantage of this and break the ice, to start to talk about subjects they are interested, even if it is as trite as "how about this weather, what kind of rain have you had at your house?" (please be less blunt) ;)

This works.

If they are not a great conversationalist, you may spend much of the time talking about them, but at least there will not be uncomfortable silence, which is worse than being whipped with barbed wire, IMO. If they feel more comfortable (ice is broken) or are a good conversationalist, they will then inquire about your interests, which may often be shared by the both of you. This can go back and forth, for five minutes or two hours.

Often the other person is more indtimidated than you are. Help them out.

Avoid Politics at all costs, as the subject of Politics usually turns from conversation, to ranting, especially if you don't agree with their's. ;)

Good luck and go for it!

Conversation is one of the greatest things, man has to offer one and other.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

i have a cousin who THINKS he knows every thing and every time you visit him he precedes to try and teach you his massive quanity of unless knownledge, just nod, stare, breath, add a few uh-huh's. lately i've turned into my dad at the docks and i will talk to people while waiting for the dock to open.

I'm a great listener, but ranting bores, do tire me out after a while. Sometime they do it because they are nervous andworried about running out of conversation. Sometime they rant on, becausee they could really care less about anybody else.

10 minutes and I absoultely have to move on.

Of course, maybe sometimes I'm a ranting bore, but then there are times when people who are not great at talking, are perfectly content at listening.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

My favorite book is Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people", which despite it's ominous title, is really one of the first great self-help books

I agree, I read this only last year and it is an amazing book, tons of relevant and excellent advice. Well written and interesting too.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Its not like I can't carry a conversation, its that annoying dead zone in the middle I hate!!!



(and knowing when to shut up and listen, I am also working on, you can't stop the pertanint info, then get back on the horse, kinda screws up the jist of the conversation.)
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Its not like I can't carry a conversation, its that annoying dead zone in the middle I hate!!!



(and knowing when to shut up and listen, I am also working on, you can't stop the pertanint info, then get back on the horse, kinda screws up the jist of the conversation.)

IMO, you would benefit from reading this book. You can get a reprint for .75 cents + shipping at half.com I have probably read my copy 20 times. It's spot-on, concerning human behavior and verbal communications.

In this 1936 self-help classic, Dale Carnegie presents maxims, techniques, and profiles in success designed to enhance both professional and personal relationships. He highlights the psychology behind behavior patterns, and encourages readers to use their understanding to improve their public speaking skills and their self-esteem.

http://product.half.ebay.com/How-to...-Paperback-Reissue/713865&tg=info#moredetails
 
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It 's not really a problem to not be able/want to be able to engage in small talk. Many men are worse at it than women.

I have no issues with publkic speaking and do it all the time. However, I do not like to "chat".

When I do get into sutuations where some interaction is needed, I just ask a lot of questions, as mentioned above. I let the other person do the talking. In most cases, that makes them feel important. Plus, you tend to learn things.

I don't think much of Larry King as a person. However, he did coin one of the most brilliant quotes I've ever heard.

"I don't learn anything when I'm talking".
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Thanks guys will look into the book.

Now I am thinking I could rename this thread "The gift of GAB", yes DJ there is no way in H#LL I could keep up to my wife and her friends while they go on and on and on.
(try getting to get a woman to describe an issue in one paragraph or less, good luck!!)

No issues with public speaking, thats more point form or Q+A.
 
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Thanks guys will look into the book.

Now I am thinking I could rename this thread "The gift of GAB", yes DJ there is no way in H#LL I could keep up to my wife and her friends while they go on and on and on.
(try getting to get a woman to describe an issue in one paragraph or less, good luck!!)

No issues with public speaking, thats more point form or Q+A.

The Lovely and Gracious Mrs. DJ (going on 32 years) looks at me and asks, all the time: "What are you thinking?" That is DANGEROUS!:eek:

I am the big silent type. It drives her nuts, I know. but I'm usually a couple weeks ahead of her on planning things. It's a curse and a Blessing, at the same time.

DO NOT EVER cut a woman off on her "descriptions" of things. They need to to do that.

I have learned to sum up a 350 page book in 100 words, or less. You know; "bad guy was a real scumbag, good guy blew him away." I might add in some really cool pyro :Dstuff.

Nuff said.

The moral of the story is that: you are who you are.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

i guess my post didn't post. grocery store line. easy way to make small talk. takes only a few seconds to start, both have a common interest. (getting out of line as soon as possible.) also you only have to engage that person for maybe 5 minutes at most. wifey is really impressed at the way i can make small talk, even after 12 years of seeing me do it. i work with people everyday so it may be easier for me but i had to start somewhere. try the grocery store line, easy small talk that ends shortly.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

i guess my post didn't post. grocery store line. easy way to make small talk. takes only a few seconds to start, both have a common interest. (getting out of line as soon as possible.) also you only have to engage that person for maybe 5 minutes at most. wifey is really impressed at the way i can make small talk, even after 12 years of seeing me do it. i work with people everyday so it may be easier for me but i had to start somewhere. try the grocery store line, easy small talk that ends shortly.

right on.

It is easy and often interesting.

When I stop for my early morning "breakfast wrap" at an Arby's located inside a truck stop, there is usually one other driver standing nearby, waiting for his order. If i don't say something, we will usually just stand there, in uncomoftable silence, which I abhor. i have to say something like, "sure is hell of a lot of potholes out there". They will almost always respond positively, and we can discuss potholes and taxes, for the next two minutes and thirty seconds.

Chances are they are too shy to start conversing with a stanger, but seem genuinely please to be conversing, especially since someone is interested in their opinion.

Life is good, but it is also short.
 

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There's a good little book on that subject called "The Pocket guide to making small talk" the isbn is 0-9677517-0-5 if you want to look it up the author is Bernardo J. Carducci.

good luck
 

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I've always found that it is easiest if you control the conversation. If the other parties are talking nuclear physics, then I remain quiet. But before long, I'll bring-up something that I know about and steer the conversation my direction. Fishing, boats, computers, etc. all make for good small talk subjects that I can speak somewhat intelligently about.
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Must be a slow week in Beyond Hope..:D:)Can't imagine you not having any thing to say...:facepalm:
 

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Re: The art of small talk?

Most people don't listen. They are simply waiting for their turn to talk.
 
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